Anti dementors visit the zombie beach

[BarkandCheese]

New thread! Hope the title is acceptable.

I've said this before but this tiny group bubble thing will be pointless come September.

Because realistically they can't ban childcare forever.

So like I said before Ds might get to go to school Monday Tuesday. Then weds thur Fri he'd be at a childminder. So that's say 5 extra kids in his "bubble" already. If say 5 other kids from his school bubble go to different childcare settings weds thur Fri as well that's another 15 kids at least maybe more. Plus a few adults.

In my opinion you'd be better having classes of 30, sticking with the hygiene measures, doing the staggered playtimes and getting rid of assemblies etc and letting after school clubs open.

I can see why they're doing it just now, get all kids some time in school (though 4 days in one term is poor) but come September more and more people will think fuck it I will use childcare because I need to pay the mortgage (me included) and I don't see how they can outlaw it.

One childminder in our area has shut down because of this and she won't be the only one. They have decimated the childcare industry when really they could have "bubbled" them in the first bloody place.

I’m worried about kids health and fitness. There are also no swimming lessons, team sports or any clubs at all. I think personally that is every bit as bad as no school. It is a public health time bomb

Write to all 5 of your AMs, Kirsty Williams, Vaughan Gething, Mark Drakeford and the Children’s commissioner for wales. If you can get your child to write to the commissioner that’s even better. Cardiff uni were also studying the impact on children so that’s worth a look.

@MrsArchchancellorRidcully

Can someone please advise me as to how we make our voices heard for kids? Do politicians really not know how lack of schooling will impact working women?

Ime they very well know but they don't care. I questioned our labour mp on it and I didn't get a single answer to any of my questions just bullshit about "we don't know what will happen"

This is an area that's had less than 300 cases with a population of 210000

I honestly think by September the evidence will be much clearer and we’ll be in a very different place. Think where we were 3 weeks ago in wales and take teacher’s with a pinch of salt at the moment. Unless they can predict the lottery numbers! But then they’d be ex teachers!

I’m worried about kids health and fitness. There are also no swimming lessons, team sports or any clubs at all. I think personally that is every bit as bad as no school. It is a public health time bomb

Totally agree- in particular with the pools and playgrounds shut. My primary DC is missing about an hour a day just from general playing, not even the sports clubs they do, and is now on Microsoft teams most of the day. Like some sort of office worker. And he is putting on weight- not fat - yet, but there is a change. Even walking to school makes a difference.

They are not keen on tennis or golf.

Garden centres open but not zoos is really odd when you think about it isn't it? Both are outdoor, similarly crowded (ie not very if you limit numbers). Both make money and are part of the economic opening up that's needed. The only difference I can see is that zoos are perceived more as a fun thing. Your only reason to go there is to have fun (rather than, say, you need to buy potting compost) I think some people feel that if people are out in public having fun, then that's somehow incompatible with any form of social distancing. Hence all the shouts of "lockdown is over" when they see traffic jams heading to the beach. Noone catches it in a traffic jam, and probably not on a beach either. But the image of people out having fun somehow makes them feel that people are no longer taking things seriously. But if we're going to maintain some level of social distancing until there's a vaccine, it has to be one that allows small scale human contact, and fun. We can go to the zoo, stay 2m apart, avoid public transport to get there, come home and know not to host a large party to end the day.

Sorry rogue apostrophe. I meant to put in opinions after teachers!

I am thinking of some kind of protest and also emailing the local MP

I was a bit angry then a bit sad that yesterday someone accused all people sending children back to school of wanting to get rid of them, despite needing to work to live and so needing schools to open. Apparently she is able to WFH and home school really well.

Why are people so nasty - we all have different children/work/home etc and all need to make decisions that fit our circumstances.

Wales I hope you're right. I mean they've been out of school since the end of march and they're at least trying to get them back. It's bloody Nicola spouting about "blended learning" that worries me. I mean I'm not in Scotland but it's worrying. Does she realise what this will do to some children. It makes me sad!

I mean we'll have to deal with it if it happens but it's not bloody fair. Education isn't two bloody days a week is it.

@Typohere it’s because they are twats 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

I'm worried about the long term viability of sports clubs if this carries on much longer. Many have ongoing costs even if not operating fully, I'm on the committee of one, our coaches are not eligible for furlough or self employed support so the club is continuing to pay them in order to ensure we still have them when we return. But with SD measures costs are possibly going to increase dramatically (it's swimming, so pool hire remains the same but can only have half the swimmers type scenario). Parents who are furloughed / made redundant may have to pull their DCs out of the clubs. Not to mention the loss of fitness / eligibility to compete.

Agree about fitness. We actually weighed DD the other day as we were getting worried. She's fine but we've definitely noticed that she's getting out of breath really quickly when she's running around in the garden. She spends every playtime running around when she's at school. Plus swimming, horse riding, walking to and from school. We just can't replicate that with playing in the garden alone / with slow adults, and going for walks.

I was a bit angry then a bit sad that yesterday someone accused all people sending children back to school of wanting to get rid of them, despite needing to work to live and so needing schools to open. Apparently she is able to WFH and home school really well

I don’t even need to work (I can do my work in the evenings) and one of mine is going back today. I’m the lowest of the low!

@Teateaandmoretea well put!

Typo There is often sneery posts about parents not wanting to take care of their children / should be appreciating this time / focus on them etc etc. Failing spectacularly to see any of the bigger picture that is people's lives.

Nope, @Drivingdownthe101, I beat you. I'm a SAHM. Dd's going back on the 15th, as soon as they let her!

@ExpletiveDelighted my daughter is in a swimming club, we would be quite happy to and expect to pay more even if others can’t

@Drivingdownthe101

I was a bit angry then a bit sad that yesterday someone accused all people sending children back to school of wanting to get rid of them, despite needing to work to live and so needing schools to open. Apparently she is able to WFH and home school really well

I don’t even need to work (I can do my work in the evenings) and one of mine is going back today. I’m the lowest of the low!

Mine are back full time into keyworker/vulnerable provision and I’m not working at all now! They’re back because they bloody well need it.

Bit of friction creeping in I noticed with today’s drop offs from those who’ve been at school throughout resenting those parents now needing to access places as well. Just a few “yes I know it’s really different now all these other children are here and not like when those who needed to be are, darling” type digs. This will probably be next- the “you don’t really need that place” judgement olympics

DS had hayfever, sneezes and runny nose. Due to start next week. What do you think tell the school in advance so they know, or risk them sending him home? (do you think they would?) He has no cough, or temp or the smell thing

I was a bit angry then a bit sad that yesterday someone accused all people sending children back to school of wanting to get rid of them, despite needing to work to live and so needing schools to open. Apparently she is able to WFH and home school really well

Just ignore. Ive seen the implications on here too that if you send your kids back its implied you dont love them as much as parents who arent. Well actually, I love them just as much which is WHY I am sending them back- for their education and their mental health. I'm not raising my kids in an atmosphere of paranoia and health anxiety and fear because that is FAR more damaging to their development that the risk of rona. Noone knows my family and my children better than me so if they dont like it they can kiss my arse.

This is mad isn't it. What child doesnt need a school place ffs.

Nurse friend has only been sending her DCs to school days she works but is now thinking of sending them in on other days so she can have a break. That one would be a headfuck for the dementors.

It's mine and DH's 9th wedding anniversary today. We were supposed to be going to Bristol this weekend

I was a bit angry then a bit sad that yesterday someone accused all people sending children back to school of wanting to get rid of them, despite needing to work to live and so needing schools to open.

Mine are 15 and 18 and don’t need me at home to look after them, but the 15 year old is still going back as soon as they reopen.