The Anti Dementors, danger-buffooning their way through life!

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Thank you for sticking up for me too! Honestly, I wish I hadn't posted that stupid thread... Really, I was just curious about the etiquette of kids in shops at the moment, not having been in one recently! And also, how one pulls up a kid for doing something that she has clearly picked up from adults... (The 2 meters!)

Honestly, I'd be surprised if they weren't well-behaved. Even DD1, who has a very over developed sense of guilt, was convinced that they hadn't been messing around. But by p2 they had been running riot, terrorising poor old ladies and holding up hoardes of frazzled people (despite the fact that there was, apparently, no queue).

Popped to the shop last night, little shop, part of a chain but not a major chain. The woman that served me was wearing gloves, now I'm no expert but there were 3 people being served in front of me.
She wore the same gloves for every customer. Taking their shopping, scanning it and putting it back and handing them their change. Should she not have been changing them in between uses? I thought it was more dangerous to wear them without changing them?

Ran into a friend on the way back and she just looked at me and said "I never shop in there anymore that woman never changes her gloves"
If people want to wear this stuff (I have to for some parts of my work) then at least they have a responsibility to wear it correctly no?

I wouldn't give it another thought. For some reason, the idea that people might have well behaved children, who are capable of following simple instructions, is anathema.
They give their own kids no structure or discipline, so assume everyone else's are as badly behaved as theirs.
I've seen young kids going to the shops on their own here. They seem to cope just fine.

Loki I work in the food industry and glove wearing is discouraged for that reason. People tend to treat gloves as if they are permanently washed hands, whereas with bare hands, they will actually wash them.
Where gloves have to be worn, e.g. for handling frozen product as it comes out of a tunnel freezer, measuring out food colouring or acids, glove changes are strictly enforced.

Exactly weeds why not just sack the gloves off and use hand gel between customers?
Oddly though my first thought was "if there is an outbreak here its next to a primary, so odds on the kids will get the blame somehow"

I've also replied on the shopping thread @Jourdain11
People really are dicks.
Also I love the "shopping isnt a leisure activity kids shouldn't be going"
Well, open the bastard playgrounds then and maybe kids wouldn't be so happy in a shop.

Two threads in AIBUabout "definite" second waves, one about prepping for it and the next inevitable lockdown...
How can they say it's definite?
Mind you, one says it's "historically" definite, which makes all kinds of no sense.

There is a large gravestone in our church, Mother, Father, 6 children. 4 of the children died within 10 days of each other. Mother lost 6 of her children and her husband before she died.
Our church has sat through a lot worse than this, I guess?

From what I have observed in shops recently it's the people with manky looking, incorrectly worn, disposable gloves and masks ( which have clearly been re-used, as there is no way they got into that state by the time the wearer got half way through the vegetable aisle at Asda) who are the serial offenders for aisle blocking, social distance infringement and food fondling.

BillyWilliamV all sorts of things carried off multiple children and family members in those days, even among the rich, with arguably better living conditions and diet. It was kind of accepted that you would lose half your kids at a young age and the wives would die of purpural fever at some point.
There were all sorts of mysterious illnesses that came in waves and then disappeared without trace. The sweating sickness, for exame. Even now, historians and scientists weren't sure what it was, but it killed thousands.
Then there were all the random accidents at work or just going about your daily business.

bibbitybobbitycats Scotland are playing politics too. For Drakeford it's clear being seen to be different is the priority.

I'm in Wales and absolutely livid about the handling of it.

Morning all,

Went for a walk into town yesterday and into a couple of small shops. One is a biggish small shop and there were two of us in there plus two staff, one on the door one behind the counter behind a screen. It was fine because they were staying put and not wandering the shop floor or asking if they could help you. Both the shops are small local businesses and it's important to support them IMO.

Walked past a park this evening. The meeting one person at a time thing has completely gone now, there were lots of large groups. While I'm anti-dementing (as in thinking people should butt out from judging other people about such behaviours) I'm not sure if I'm ready for that myself yet, but I have been seeing friends singly.

I was tested (negative) as part of the Joinzoe research last week but haven't been looking at the website, thanks to whoever mentioned it, off for a browse now.

I am in Wales. I know that things are far from perfect in terms of testing etc, but in terms of easing restrictions I think Wales has it right and it's no coincidence that NI and Scotland are taking a similar approach

Just us darned irresponsible English messing everything up

Well we drove to see a relative who lives alone and happens to live next to a lovely beach. We kept our distance and had a blissful day catching up and swimming. Marred only by a dementor villager ranting at us for visiting and parking where we did - shaking with anger. When I explained we were visiting uncle x and were in his parking space that he owns she kind of deflated muttered sorry and scuttled back inside. Quite funny!

Morning buffoons! I've been angering myself this morning by reading the bollocks about "blended learning" in September. www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/31/full-september-return-unlikely-with-schools-warning-its-not-business-as-usual

I don't have kids and there's nothing I'd enjoy more than a pint in a pub garden but the idea that we'll reopen pubs and nail bars before we fully reopen schools is shameful. Such a betrayal of children's education and of mothers who will inevitably be the ones jeopardising their careers (at the worst possible moment) to fill the gaps.

I'm genuinely embarrassed by how we're treating children and young people in all this. I don't know how we're going to explain this to them when they're older.

Has anyone else noticed, dementors keep doing this statistical thing where they compare the UK estimated figure of 8k infections per day with other countries’ confirmed cases? As if everyone else is identifying every single case!

Yes TheCountessofFitzdotterel it makes me laugh. As though our 8000 estimated cases is exactly the same as Italy’s confirmed 1000 cases. Not considering the fact that if we’re not testing the asymptomatic cases, there’s a high possibility that they’re not either.

heroku I can understand planning for part time learning as a contingency but it's been muted as a default position which boils my piss. Surely it should be the priority for unions to get kids back into schools full time asap.

I'm so fed up. I've stopped reading the news. I've hidden the majority of people on my Facebook. I just can't take it.

"Don't open schools it's lethal". I've just checked. There were zero deaths by covid19 recorded in our LA on the last weeks ONS stats. Fucking zero.

Yet we've reached the point where my two really well balanced children are not sleeping, regularly having nightmares, in a knife edge emotionally, and generally not coping. But I'M the unreasonable one for wanting life to start opening up for them.

Everyone can just bugger off.

I also need to start drinking less. It's probably not helping my mood but I just feel so helpless to help my family and it takes the edge off that.

I just read the Times now as it seems much better. Had an interesting article about behind the scenes in food banks today, and how middle some class families are losing everything due to lockdown (businesses run as a couple) also has a guide to where you can go on holiday as well

Have been looking at the stockpiling for a second wave thread and sighed. All that caused such problems at the seat of lockdown surely they won't do all that again

I have also been drinking more, trying to limit to to the weekends now - which also helps with remembering which day it is and gives a pattern to the week a bit.

It's an absolute disgrace that we are considering part time schooling from September. I will hazard a guess that the majority of children will not be adequately home schooled because parents either have to work, have other children to look after or just aren't teachers.

By September if we aren't back to any kind of normality I'm expecting suicides, depression, alcohol and drug abuse, child abuse, domestic abuse etc to sky rocket.

We should not be expected to live in a perpetual state of fear like we are hiding from something with a 100% death rate instead of something with maybe a 1% death rate and even then it's swayed more towards the elderly etc.

I can’t live like this beyond September, and neither can my child. What is happening to our country?

The Guardian article is rubbish and I'd ignore it. I'm really interested that all these articles appear citing Unions as if they're some sort of research body. They're not! The people interviewed are only looking at it from one angle. No interviews, I notice, with LEAs, headteachers, DfE workers...

@GeraltOfRivia I could have written your post.

The schools thing is outrageous.

And full on dementoring starting again on social media, with the second waves pictures; space in ICU; and murderers lifting their kids into play parks.

It feels like it will never end.