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Shielding chat continues - thread 2

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AuntieSocia1 · 27/05/2020 21:49

Shiny new thread for anyone shielding.

You can vent/moan/cry/chat/lurk whatever you need.

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LucyTrainsDragons · 01/06/2020 21:23

It is worrying, I’m hopeful that it’s just a small pocket of staff? Hopefully I’ll know later!

No one asking questions regarding shielding asks the work question, unless they just think it’s a given that you can’t go, unless you can WFH! I’m just watching the itv programme on catch up about it and nothing is mentioned about work & shielding.

Egghead68 · 01/06/2020 21:38

I know. The lack of information is staggering.

Anewuser · 01/06/2020 21:52

I think it’ll be in line with furlough. So the government are going to pay furlough until the end of October so they’ll cover shielded pay until then. I’m sure that won’t cover parents of shielded children though. Like others, I think they’ll be looking to reduce the shielded list dramatically. It’s obvious from the calls today, they are already trying to reduce the food boxes. People will be returning to their jobs so will be less volunteers available as well.

ClientQ · 01/06/2020 22:04

I'm wondering if I will be removed. I fall under point 4 - rare blood disorder with increased chance of infection (neutropenic)

LucyTrainsDragons · 01/06/2020 22:15

Ds has shown me the info regarding staff testing positive where he works.

All staff are going to now be tested, priority are those with underlying health conditions and those with front line workers, then the rest. Might have been good to add those with shielded family members at home but ah well, we’ve come to feel forgotten in all of this so why change it now!

MarieVanGoethem · 02/06/2020 02:59

Apologies for just posting about myself & not responding to other people: can’t see well enough to read (& thus apologies in advance for any errors/typos that ensue, too) but am feeling ridiculously stressed about having to go up to the hospital next week on top of some general Life Nonsense & am afraid that Telling People Who’ll Get It really rather appeals.

  1. I shouldn’t have to go up to hospital at all; it’s care that should be being provided at home. But somehow District Nurses in my Trust have managed to get away with being “notorious for not doing line care”.
  2. No reply to my complaint about the above. Made almost a month ago.
  3. Process for getting Blue Badge Congestion Charge exemption sorted is proving ridiculous. Submitted documentation as soon as badge arrived; got email today requesting I email them it. Suspect will be paying CC on Monday because other people cannot do their jobs properly.
  4. Will need to move phone appointment I have on Monday as going to have to set off to hospital earlier as everybody is now merrily gadding about once more.
  5. I can’t go up to the department if I arrive early, so we don’t want to leave too much time. But obviously it’s disastrous to be late. Trying to figure this out is a nightmare.
  6. I’m genuinely worried about my ability to walk up from the basement to the first floor. Not safe to use the lifts, but I’m so much more deconditioned than I was last month that I don’t think there’s any way I can’t use the bannister. Unless I use my crutches, which I hate, because they’re so incredibly painful to use. I basically cruise like a toddler - or sometimes bum-shuffle (when at home, though I HAVE had to when in public: mercifully unwitnessed other than when demonstrating it for physios) - rather than use the sodding things. My wheelchair (clearly not stair-compatible, but as I’m bimbling on about mobility aids) is too heavy for me too use independently - it’s an NHS-issue “lightweight” one that’s over a decade old now & weighs around 28% of what I do. It’s also too big for me, thanks to the person who measured me stuffing up EPICALLY - she wouldn’t admit to her mistake either, so she’d only go one size smaller when I came to collect it, not the 2 sizes down she needed to go for it to fit me properly. And I weighed more at the time too... so yes, anyway, I hate using mobility aids & have worked so SO hard not to (& flatly refused to in the hospital last summer, much to annoyance of physios until they actually assessed my upper limb joints & conceded that I might have a point - but if I fell I was going to have to use one) but think I may have to use my fecking crutches because I’m so sodding deconditioned I don’t think I’ll cope otherwise. But then I’ve to clean the sodding crutches. Maybe I could wear gloves just for the bannisters?
  7. Exactly how horrifyingly deconditioned I am was rammed home today when I tried doing a ballet class over Zoom. I’ve not been well enough to dance for actual years. And spent most of last summer in hospital. With a whole “ok so my body tried to kill me” situation at the start of July. From which I’m still recovering, really. But I only managed the opening exercise; pliés; first tendu exercise; & most of the second tendu exercise. While it is an intermediate class, professional dancers choose to attend it, so even the opening exercises are demanding. So saying I managed better when I began ballet (5 months after reconstructive surgery on both knees) isn’t best direct comparison - but I did WAY better when I went back to it a few months after 2 major surgeries (3rd lot of work on my L knee followed by having my appendix out...) in a fortnight. I knew it wouldn’t be easy, but I was really shocked - & genuinely a wee bit scared - by just how bad the pain & fatigue was. Obviously my permaspasmed muscles haven’t any of them relaxed though. Not sure how that works.
  8. Fairly desperately need some up to date physio input really. Actually had a dream about doing hydrotherapy the other night... No idea how/if it can be arranged though & fear without it things will just keep getting worse until it actually IS safe for me to leave my house other than on my hospital jaunts. And that I might not be able to pull things back. I have worked desperately desperately hard for years to stay walking despite the fact it is difficult & painful & exhausting because with one of my disabilities if you don’t use it you lose it. And if you decondition a really common comorbid condition (which I have) is inevitably exacerbated & atm I’m able to be treated with lifestyle measures & a single medication - over the maximum dose, but only the one drug, I’d very much like to stick with that.
  9. I need to get myself together & open the packages containing my basic cloth mask & my fancy filter one & wash both of them so it’s definitely done ready for Monday. Am worried about how I’ll manage with the filter one, though it’s not valved, so it’s - supposedly - easier to breathe through. I was ok with the paper mask last time, so I guess if I find that by the end of the car journey my lungs are in a tizz I can ask to be provided with a paper mask. Can always neb before I go, I suppose.
10. The idea of keeping on exposing myself to the virus like this once a month really scares me, frankly. And because of (1) it makes me really very cross.

(And while I’m here, in other whinges: had email from Lovely Admin to say Superspecialist is planning to ring me at some stage this week, about the surgery I don’t think I want to have because the idea freaks me out, so am hoping he’ll say I’m not a candidate; my psoriasis is somehow managing to be bonkers despite current medication & think probably need to see dermatology but, well, Covid; am really q cross with respiratory team for sitting on my DXA results for almost a year, then not actually doing bone health team referral, & if they’ve still not done it when I check again tomorrow I think I’m going to complain because my spine is wrecked in other ways so I really can’t be doing with osteoporosis as well - particularly not essentially caused by people not managing my care properly; & am increasingly worried about just how bad the impact on my health is going to be of having to delay various things - not too worried about my regular ECHO having to wait as not having symptoms, but jaw surgery that’s been put on hold as exhausted all conservative measures & then needed to wait for max-facs to return from sabbatical this month [ahahahahaha] as not only did oral surgeon want max-facs input literally only one person would do, apparently [because I’m A Special Creature].)

Apologies for this being so long (has taken an awfully long time to write) & so completely self-absorbed. Everything is rather jumbled in my head over this & I don’t have anyone else I can talk to about it - really don’t want my Daddy to know how worried I am. Hoping I might sleep having written it out, but don’t expect anyone to read/reply. Because it is stupidly long & more importantly, generally quite stupid & inconsequential nonsense. Sorry.

Anewuser · 02/06/2020 06:01

@MarieVanGoethem. Whilst it's lovely to hear you (I was starting to worry as you haven't been on here for a while) you do sound as if you have an enormous amount on your plate.

There's not a lot I can say. You sound incredible to even be attempting ballet.

If your wheelchair isn't an option then I would definitely say use gloves on the bannister. When I had hospital appointments in April I only put my mask on when leaving the car and put it away when I returned to the car. I would have struggled to wear it during the car journey and didn't see it necessary as it was only me in the car. I had also read that hanging it on the line in direct sunlight was better than washing. I was able to ring from the car and 'book in' when I arrived so waited in the car until they were ready for me rather than in a busy waiting room. Would you be able to do that?

Regarding the complaint you put in about district nurses, they must have a complaints policy with timescales for responding. I'd be chasing again and threaten escalating to Public Health Service Ombudsman.

I'm sorry congestion charge exemption is proving a nightmare as well. When I did ours years ago it was straightforward but I don't know if that's because we have a motability vehicle.

I hope you managed to get a little sleep last night. It's good being able to get things off your chest, knowing that people on here will have a little understanding of how difficult your life must be.

Take care.

Newjez · 02/06/2020 06:21

Just about to go on my second bike ride. Quite impressed with my ride yesterday. Felt the stress dropping off me. I thought the country was still very quiet. Not much traffic and train carpark empty, despite what the media is telling us.

I start a new job soon. I have told them I am shielding and I'm just waiting on the start date. I am praying shielding goes on past June, as there is no way I am prepared to go into an office.

BatSegundo · 02/06/2020 08:03

@MarieVanGoethem you have so much on your plate, my lovely, your head must be spinning.

I can't get about without mobility aids. I hated touching bannisters, hand rails etc in the weeks before lockdown. I wore gloves and was really careful not to touch my face. I also held my breath when going in lifts Grin ...was only a couple of floors though.

LockdownLucie · 02/06/2020 08:29

Hi all, i am a late comer and my shielding letter was late coming (12th May) as I have a blood cancer but quite a rare one. I am not poorly fortunately but I have regular monitoring (which moved to 6 monthly monitoring last year) so I am fortunate in this not to be ill. I am also fortunate that I work pt and can work pt from home and I have a few quiet lovely walks on my doorstep.
I haven’t had a call from my GP, hospital specialist or anyone from a shielding while so I worry I may fall through the cracks again.

ClientQ · 02/06/2020 08:47

I have been for bloods - busy! It was the only place with an 8am appointment. Felt conspicuous being the only person wearing a mask. Starbucks drive through on the way home Grin

midgetem · 02/06/2020 08:52

Hi all,

Was hoping to join, I've been sheilding since March (had a transplant) but I've found myself really struggling recently and was looking for people that understand our situation! My friends and family don't understand and don't get why I don't just enjoy the extended period of time off with the children

Anewuser · 02/06/2020 09:12

@midgetem. I wonder whether it's because there's too much conflicting information - we mustn't go out, we can go out. We can cope with our conditions or the condition of a loved one, we used to that but we have a fear of the unknown. When will we be expected to go back to work, for example.

Egghead68 · 02/06/2020 10:48

Just left the house for a blood test. There’s absolutely no social distancing going on round here.

LucyTrainsDragons · 02/06/2020 11:30

Hopefully the turn in the weather will stop people continuing to ignore the social distancing rules.

Blood tests! It’s like trying to strike gold here getting to even speak to someone so I can book an apt! I have to have my blood test 4 days before my treatment, can’t do it through the GP currently, all has to be booked through the hospital even though I can still have it carried out at the GP surgery! Can’t get to speak to anyone, only can leave a message! No one rings you back! Spoke to GP surgery, they apologised but nothing they can do! Ill just have to keep trying!

FuzzyPuffling · 02/06/2020 11:32

We've just been for a walk and I don't know if I shall ever feel safe going gout again. It juts all feels wrong and scary. And we live very rurally and have been sneaking out for a walk for the past couple of weeks to save or sanity. Today we saw about 8 people instead of 2 and I hated it. I realise that much of this is my head, but it will take me some time to feel even approaching normal.

Egghead68 · 02/06/2020 11:53

@MarieVanGoethem that all sounds horrendously stressful and frustrating. You are coping with so much. I am amazed you can even attempt ballet classes with all that going on. It’s far from stupid and inconsequential. I hope you got some sleep. Sending you love and good vibes across the airways x

Egghead68 · 02/06/2020 11:56

@FuzzyPuffling I’m the same. It was awful. I walked in the middle of the road as much as I could but came within a metre of about 10 people despite my best efforts. Apart from the few people wearing masks everything seemed back to normal.

kirstinm · 02/06/2020 11:58

Hope you are all doing ok today. Having a bad day here, probably not helped by the fact that I'm physically not great for a few reasons. I talk a good talk with regards to shielding and I think I've dealt with it ok and kept positive etc. But some days I just think this is my life now and it's just a lot to take.

FuzzyPuffling · 02/06/2020 12:29

Nothing I can say to make it better except I think we understand here. If there's any "be kind" to be done, we need to save it for ourselves first!

BeyondDreamsOfBeyondFourWalls · 02/06/2020 12:54

Kids homework has started to include "while on your daily walk" now too :(

rugbymummy · 02/06/2020 13:45

@FuzzyPuffling you are so right. I don’t think there are any words that help when you’re having a bad day. So to all those who are, I hope that knowing people who ‘get it’ are reading, listening, nodding along in agreement and sending virtual hugs helps. I know it helps me.
Husband and son went out for their first walk in 11 weeks last night - to get me some emergency steroids cos I can’t breathe very well. The people who we’d normally ask to do this are all back at work now so I don’t feel like we can bother them. Makes me feel like a child asking for help. Anyway, apparently they had to jump into the road a few times because groups of people were walking straight at them, and at one point they stood in the road because there was nowhere else to go. Made it back safely (think it did them the world of good to be fair) but their message was very clear ‘you can’t go out there’.

Egghead68 · 02/06/2020 15:58

Just had a phone call telling me to keep shielding and do I still need food boxes (which I’m not getting anyhow). First call I’ve had from “the government shielding service”.

NervousInYorkshire · 02/06/2020 16:05

I got a text from the council saying

"The advice to shield remains in place. Updated advice means you can spend time outdoors safely once a day with members of your household. Or if you live alone, with one other person. Maintain strict physical 2m distance at all times, do not enter enclosed areas and wash your hands when you return home. Support to help you shield is still available, including practical and emotional support. "

I also got one from the national shielding service saying to expect a call to update any needs around food/care/wellbeing.

Egghead68 · 02/06/2020 16:42

“Support to help you shield is still available, including practical and emotional support”

What’s this then? (apart from the luxury food boxes and the supermarket slots)

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