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HauntedGoatFart · 21/05/2020 14:11

Another interesting article from UnHerd: Oxford epidemiologist Sunetra Gupta thinks that we may well have far higher immunity to Covid-19 than antibody tests indicate and that it is already burning itself out.

unherd.com/2020/05/oxford-doubles-down-sunetra-gupta-interview/

AnotherEmma · 21/05/2020 14:11

No play areas and it's one of my biggest complaints.

Children can do fuck all but never mind, at least the adults can go to fucking garden centres.

justasking111 · 21/05/2020 14:11

Anyone got Scotlands deaths?

Nihiloxica · 21/05/2020 14:12

Dreary, that makes sense.

I was just thinking about my Dad and how he would have felt about lockdown and long term (and 6 months plus is long term in the life of a child) school closures.

He loved being a teacher. But more than that, he was PROUD of being a teacher.

He saw his job as an absolutely essential public service and himself as a public servant with a duty to provide that service as best he could.

He thought education was just as essential to our society as healthcare.

I just can't see him agitating to keep schools closed because it wasn't safe FOR HIM. I think he would have found it as shameful as if doctors and nurses had walked out of the hospitals over their risks of contracting Covid.

What we are doing with our schools is unprecedented since universal free education became a foundation stone of the welfare state.

The difference that made to the lives of the poor and working classes is written right through late 20th Century history.

A Tory government has closed public schools and the unions are arguing that they should remain closed in one form or another indefinitely. It's insane world.

Dowser · 21/05/2020 14:13

No not where I live in ne..but kids are taking balls along
I did see some kid use a zip wire in Northallerton park, I cheered them on
Buy your kids cricket sets
Set up in the park and see if other kids come along to play
A friend who is shielding, said she looking forward to meeting up with another friend...when it’s safe
I feel like saying it’s safe now..get over there, get in her garden
They live in sw, so nowhere near me, good job..we might have cooled our friendship which would be sad

Nihiloxica · 21/05/2020 14:15

Hah I always forget that in England you have to say state schools because "public" schools have no public interest at all.

Dowser · 21/05/2020 14:20

I used to see my Gp privately at her home
No way would she have shut up shop
I miss her so much
91 when she retired
I wished I’d listened more
She was an
AMaxing
She left allopathic medecine Long before she took me on as a patient aged 70
Tested you for pathogens with muscle testing, which we all know doesn’t work . Gave you the appropriate homeopathic remedy. I’ll tell you now, that is the biggest con going .
Kept me ticking over for 20 years
One amazing doctor, so sadly missed in these timeS
People flew in from all over the world to see her.
I feel very privileged to have been her patient
Your father sounds like my dad nihiloxica
Salt of the earth
He wouldn’t have had any truck with this nonsense

Dowser · 21/05/2020 14:22

Amazing doctor, but you guessed that didn’t you 👍

savehalloween · 21/05/2020 14:23

waleshasgonecrazy a fellow Welsh person here. I deleted my Twitter because I couldn't handle reading any more of it.

heroku · 21/05/2020 14:28

Wow that is nuts about YouTube removing the Karol Sikora interview. I know I am a bit tin foil hat when it comes to big tech and censorship but this is quite scary. Apparently YouTube have been removing any material that throws into question government health guidance citing it as dangerous to public health. It's all a bit Gilead at the moment isn't it.

LilacTree1 · 21/05/2020 14:29

I’ve been on the phone for ages....will go back and read properly.

I saw earlier someone posted it was a good thing that Facebook were going to remove false information. I don’t think Facebook will remove crazy memes. It’s scientists who are less hysterical about Covid that they want to silence.

Nihiloxica · 21/05/2020 14:29

It's all a bit Gilead at the moment isn't it.

Yup

beachgoer · 21/05/2020 14:31

lol @MinnieMountain I know what city u r in!

savehalloween · 21/05/2020 14:32

The card home situation in Cardiff / Wales is just abhorrent. We have created more capacity than England and they've been quick to mention that, quite horrifying to learn how it's been done in part by discharging vulnerable people to care homes without testing.

These feel like the kind of measures that would be used in the middle of the worst case scenario modelling they did, not a first resort.

savehalloween · 21/05/2020 14:39

I've hit a wall today. I'm not even sure why. I just realised I have absolutely nothing to look forward to and no real reason to look forward to getting out of bed. I've cried all day.

It's the not knowing when any of this will end that is getting to me. And getting my hopes up constantly. I'm at the stage where ANY end date would be preferable to this limbo.

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TheGreatWave · 21/05/2020 14:41

My local park can only have part of it closed off, oh the annoyance (they are always annoyed with the park though)

BUT on a good note, I spewed all over school and they have offered ds (yr 7 ASD) a place after half term, initially one day a week and go from there. So happy.

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Drivingdownthe101 · 21/05/2020 14:42

I hit the wall yesterday savehalloween when our flights to Spain to visit the IL’s were cancelled.
We didn’t go last year as I had PND, and had basically pinned everything on 2020 being the year to make up for last years awfulness... nice trip to Spain, weekends away, meals out etc. Now... nothing. Urgh.

Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy · 21/05/2020 14:42

@savehalloween I completely agree. It’s appalling the way they discharged people into care homes without testing. They also discharged very vulnerable people into the community in the same way. It happened to someone I know who after a hospital stay came into contact with various volunteers, professionals and their partner before being readmitted and tested positive. Many of the people they met had no ppe

Nihiloxica · 21/05/2020 14:44

I've hit a wall today. I'm not even sure why. I just realised I have absolutely nothing to look forward to and no real reason to look forward to getting out of bed. I've cried all day.

That's how my 12 year old child felt on Monday.

It was the worst day of my life dealing with a child who can see nothing to get out of bed for.

But apparently the people who want to continue to inflict this on her are all big hearted and kind.

I hope you feel better soon.

I have also realised that most of these measures only work by us consenting to them. I have withdrawn my consent as of Monday.

beachgoer · 21/05/2020 14:44

"what r your plans for 1/2 term" thread in corona zone. may have stirred the nest. Its all hairshirts and self imprisionment there!

my plans: go to the beach again ! mwa hahahahahaha

heroku · 21/05/2020 14:46

@savehalloween I was the same a few days ago when I realised everything I was looking forward to has been cancelled and all I can see is a looming winter. The only thing keeping me going is knowing how amazing that first pint in a pub garden will be when it finally happens. Am crossing my fingers so hard we'll get pubs open before the summer is out.

Jourdain11 · 21/05/2020 14:48

It is interesting, here, though, how many people are our and about! I said to DH (only half joking) is it a public holiday that nobody told me about? I completely get that people want to go to the park and eat ice cream and let their kids play with each other and have barbeques in their front garden with the entire extended family hanging around "social distancing" on the pavement. The weather is gorgeous! But I don't really see that you can go for all of that and then say, I'll die if I have to go back to work. I'm not sending my children into school like lambs to the slaughter. Or AIBU?

BarkandCheese · 21/05/2020 14:50

I’ve just been on a good murder spree, a trip to Box Hill for a picnic and a walk around the natural play trail where the play equipment is made from felled trees and spread out along a one and a half mile woodland walk. DD had a good scramble and climb which was nice to see, I’d recommend this particular murder spree to anyone who’s nearish and whose children are missing play parks. Only downside was the loos weren’t open.

There’s a report on the BBC news site about too many visitors turning up to European beaches and not observing social distancing. So much for us awful rule breaking Brits and those wonderful, rule abiding Europeans. Who’d have thought human nature was pretty much universal?

Nihiloxica · 21/05/2020 14:51

But I don't really see that you can go for all of that and then say, I'll die if I have to go back to work. I'm not sending my children into school like lambs to the slaughter. Or AIBU?

It's ALMOST like they are motivated not by fear but by laziness.

Jourdain11 · 21/05/2020 14:53

There’s a report on the BBC news site about too many visitors turning up to European beaches and not observing social distancing. So much for us awful rule breaking Brits and those wonderful, rule abiding Europeans. Who’d have thought human nature was pretty much universal?

The sainted Germans had full-on huge demos. But that didn't get much coverage here!

Also, my mum in France saw her neighbour coming out of his apartment with his cat in a carry cage. And she said, "Oh, is the cat sick, are you going to the vet?" It turned out that he was taking his cat for a walk in line with the government guidance that you could take out your pet for exercise. He had the piece of paper filled out and everything 😂