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When you are annoyed with a stranger do you say something out loud so they can hear it?

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huntinthehornybacktoad · 18/05/2020 08:40

When you are annoyed with a stranger do you say something out loud so they can hear it?

I think I have occasionally done this (about dog poo dumpers) but I’m thinking of stopping because when people do it to me it’s really quite unnerving. I think that the effect it has on me is much greater than they intend. So I’m starting to wonder if it’s worse than actual direct confrontation.

The first time it happened to me was at an airport. I was getting some food and drink before the flight. A woman who was there with her family thought that I had gone ahead of her (I was oblivious so I may or may not have been guilty of it). The first I realised was her saying in a stage whisper to her really quite small child “don’t worry Tom, karma will come round to her”. It was actually quite frightening like being cursed. If she had said “excuse me I think we were ahead of you“ I would’ve immediately apologised. As it was I just froze.

The second occasion was yesterday out in the countryside. I was very near my house and we are all getting used to weaving paths around each other to try and keep some kind of distance. My own house has a back gate on a narrow path. I was about 4 m away from my own gate and somebody was coming towards me in the opposite direction. She walked a couple of steps out into the bracken andI passed her. Then she did that loud ostentatious primary school teacher talking to a child in reception who has much to learn voice ‘You’re welcome” thing. I have been lost in thoughts about my upcoming biopsy and I’m so used to stepping along and around the path..... I don’t need to expect people to thank me for this normal behaviour.She hadn’t been inconvenienced at all. My first thought was that she wouldn’t of said this to a man. The second thought was that if she didn’t want to step aside she could just stay on the path and I would step out. My next thought was that it didn’t seem worth the price of a sudden confrontation with a stranger just to force them to acknowledge the three steps you’ve taken to go round.

My mother-in-law has the opposite approach. We’ve often been mortified when out with her in public because she will challenge anyone who she thinks is going in front of her. However now I think about it maybe she has the right approach. Because when she does this people know she has a problem with something that she wants them to change. And it’s in their power to change it. Where is if you just talk about people behind their back ( literally) it’s like you’re making a comment that they’re the sort of person that wouldn’t respond if you did speak to them directly and so it seems to be much more aggressive.

Anyway I would be interested to know what others think.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/05/2020 11:46

I sing a few lines of Alison Moyet's Invisible...

... loudly.

I've given up being polite or worried about how the other person might feel. I'm just too tired of being the one responsible for getting out of the way.

I may even wear purple.

huntinthehornybacktoad · 18/05/2020 11:48

ravenmum :)

Samphire at least that's creative!

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/05/2020 11:55

Invisible
I feel like I'm invisible
You bumped me like I'm not really there
That you don't really care
I fear my bruises, they ain't going nowhere

I've had plenty of practice, unfortunately.

And no, I rarely get past the first few words.

Chatons · 18/05/2020 12:03

I was in the post office one time, and I opened the door in order to make my exit. A chap strode in, who was clearly in his own little world. I said “you’re welcome” rather theatrically, he said “ooh sorry”, and then we both laughed.

Ultrasoft · 18/05/2020 12:28

I can honestly say I rarely care enough about what a stranger's doing to find them annoying.

In a queue situation I'd either decide it didn't matter or say something directly to them. The thanking I'd just let it go.

No I never do the PA "you're welcome" or deliberately loud private conversation about someone else's behaviour. I always say thank you to people I pass, bus drivers, shop assistant etc but I'd never point out someone except my own children was being rude if they forgot.

MurrayTheMonk · 18/05/2020 12:33

I regularly do the 'you're welcome' thing. Manners cost nothing and it really annoys me that people can't be bothered to thank others when they've accommodated them.
The DD's loathe it. But it reinforces to them that I expect them to say thanks for things as well.
I wouldn't make any further comments than that however. Too chicken.

Ultrasoft · 18/05/2020 12:34

Love all the people saying how important manners are who are actually being really rude Grin

MurrayTheMonk · 18/05/2020 12:38

But it's not more rude than not thanking someone who has visibly troubled themselves to move out of their way for you is it. So swings and round shouts I suppose.

Surely the norm should be
'You see someone on the path ahead. You choose to politely stand Aside so they can pass easily. They say Thanks automatically, everyone goes about their day quite happily' then there would be no debate.

Ultrasoft · 18/05/2020 12:41

Two wrongs don't make a right Wink

ravenmum · 18/05/2020 12:43

My mother tells the story of how she was in a shop waiting at a counter and a woman behind the counter asked "Are you alright there?" As my mother believes that this phrase should not be used to mean "Can I help you?", she answered "Yes, thank you" in a sulky voice (if her description is anything to go by).
She was then pissed off that the woman had no idea that this was a PA dig and took her reply at face value.

Mildly amusing if you're just hearing this anecdote, no more than embarrassing if you are there with her. But sometimes people do notice her PA comments and get quite riled up and aggressive. I'm not sure that it's safer than a direct response.

Ultrasoft · 18/05/2020 12:44

You don't know why that one individual in that moment forgot their manners. They could be absorbed in thought about all sorts of trauma, but you just go ahead and make your PA point.

The whole point of manners is to make people feel at ease , why go out of your way to make someone uncomfortable?

TheNavigator · 18/05/2020 12:45

I regularly do the 'you're welcome' thing. Manners cost nothing and it really annoys me that people can't be bothered to thank others when they've accommodated them

How hilarious that you think you are exhibiting manners by being rude Grin

MagnoliaJustice · 18/05/2020 12:47

Making passive aggressive comments is childish behaviour. Be an adult and tell someone if they have done something you disagree with. Muttering under your breath - but ensuring they have heard - is utterly pathetic.

Crimsonnightlotus · 18/05/2020 12:54

Maybe you are oblivious to the surrounding, and when you noticed someone did you a favour or you accidentally jumped a queue, you don't realise and acknowledge your mistakes. I am often oblivious and as soon as I realise, I would apologise. Normally doesn't leave bad feelings.

If I was annoyed, I won't say, I'm too introvert to do anything. On the other hand, my dh respond with sarcasm, like saying "you're welcome".

huntinthehornybacktoad · 18/05/2020 12:59

Invisible
I feel like I'm invisible
If this lady today (not that I bumped into her!) had stood there and sung a whole song we might have ended up best of friends!

"You bumped me like I'm not really there
That you don't really care
I fear my bruises, they ain't going nowhere

I've had plenty of practice, unfortunately.

And no, I rarely get past the first few words."

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megletthesecond · 18/05/2020 13:01

No.
I mostly bitch about them on Twitter.

huntinthehornybacktoad · 18/05/2020 13:02

"The DD's loathe it"

Do you know why?

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Whatnametomorrow10 · 18/05/2020 13:10

I’m the most quiet person ever never raise voice et c
Until yesterday....twice....went to walk with the family - small car park you need a pass so have to be a member of the local place and was busy and you only have to wait 5 minutes or so before someone leaves and a space comes up.

Two huge cars arrived no spaces and dumped/parked there car on the side - will now cause a blockage and others getting in and out...I very loudly said as they unloaded Shame people think that’s ok to cause a blockage hope they won’t need an ambulance..,at that point someone was leaving there space and the Dad sheepishly said oh I better move my car! I was so embarrassed
2nd time two runners jogging and chatting - can around a corner and jogged straight into me - carries on chatting with friend - I then may have said ffs why they feel the need to use the whole path for the two of them.

Very very unlike me

NeedToKnow101 · 18/05/2020 13:23

Sometimes I do, yep.

huntinthehornybacktoad · 18/05/2020 16:38

Whatnametomorrow10

Do you think it's just the stress of the lockdown limiting us all to such local areas? My lockdownhasn't been very stressful (apart from MacFate picking this of all times to decide I need a biopsy) but I am feeling decidedly ratty with my neighbours by this point.

Sounds like usually you'd have just shrugged that stuff off?

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CoronaIsShit · 18/05/2020 17:21

I’m terrible for this now. The amount of people who don’t acknowledge that I’ve stepped into the road, or onto the grass verge dodging dog shit, on my daily walk so they don’t have to move on the path makes me pretty pissed off. It’s usually parents pushing prams or walking with DC IME. Older people always nod and smile or say thank you. Just a quick nod would suffice. People are so rude and self absorbed. I’ve taken to loudly muttering ‘you’re welcome’ now.

PilatesPeach · 18/05/2020 17:43

No, it is asking for trouble - make a remark to the wrong person who knows what will happen. Let it go - some people are rude and those that are won't change just because you make a comment to them.

Whatnametomorrow10 · 19/05/2020 22:57

@huntinthehornybacktoad

I think your right - I can usually take things in my stride. But a little bit of me keeps seeing more selfishness is people - maybe I just noticing it more. Husband & I are also very very busy with work & homeschooling (fail) I feel so tired - yet rarely leave the house 😂

huntinthehornybacktoad · 20/05/2020 09:41

Thanks Whatname.

I'm feeling so irritable with the neighbours right now because of some issues but I don't trust myself because I know it's being stuck cheek by jowl for months....

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AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 20/05/2020 09:52

I frequently do a ‘you’re welcome’

To pass by without an acknowledgement if I’ve moved out of your way or held a door open is rude. It doesn’t have to be a thank you - a nod or smile is fine.

If I let the door slam in your face or stood my ground, folk would have plenty to say.

I just think it is common courtesy.

You’re welcome Wink