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Needy, immature mother-in-law. Help!

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Princessmumma30 · 16/05/2020 07:57

Not quite sure where to start!
I have been married for 6 years, together with DH for 10 in total. Everything was fine with his family until we got married and had our first child 5 years ago. My mil has always been very difficult to the point where i dread seeing her sometimes. DH's parents don't really like mine for some reason and his mother has always had a problem with my mother since they both became grandparents. It's like it's a competition for my mil. She has to buy the my children the most gifts, has to see them more, gets jealous if the children spend time with my family etc. She's incredibly emotionally immature and has to have her way often otherwise it's hell to be around her. She does have lovely ways about her but then they're overshadowed by her complete child like thinking and jealous behaviour. If my parents are mentioned to her she doesn't say anything and tries to change the subject. If the kids have a sleepover at my parents house and she finds out they then have to have a sleepover at her house. If we go on holiday with my family we then have to go on holiday with my in laws. If we go on a day out with my parents we then have to plan a day out with mil and fil. It's like we can't do a single thing with my family unless we do the same thing with DH's parents. It drives me insane. Don't get me wrong, mil is a great nanny and loves the kids to the moon and back but she gets very possessive over the grandkids. My sil (DH's sister) once said to me that her mum often likes to think she's the only grandmother. Apparently it's just the way she is. Sil knows what her mum can be like and often stands up for me when issues arise. My DH, on the other hand, can pander to his mum. Sometimes he will speak up but not a lot.
Anyway, we were talking yesterday and decided that we should go take the kids to see my parents for the first time in 7 weeks (keeping to social distancing rules the whole time as they have a big garden and the kids can play safely away from parents) and we will sit on opposite sides of the garden etc. We just thought we needed to get out of the house and see some family making sure we're safe at the same time. DH was on a video call to his parents last night (again) and our daughter suddenly says to mil "we're going to see other nanny tomorrow, I'm so excited!" I literally put my face in my hands and immediately knew that this would be a massive issue. My mil, not surprisingly, didn't really say anything and DH immediately said to her that we we would pop round to see them Sunday to keep her sweet, as long as nobody else was there in order to social distance 🙄. It's actually pathetic that we have to do this to keep her from having a hissy fit the whole time and quite frankly, exhausting. My parents don't get much of a look in when it comes to the grandkids as they both still work full time (both own their own businesses) but would love to see the kids more whereas my in laws only work part time and have the kids when I work (me part time, DH full time). Mil also is always asking to have the kids to stay which is okay but it's so possessive!
At the beginning of this year we went on a ski holiday with my parents as they have a place in the alps. We always look foward to this holiday but my mil got funny about it because we had to take dc away during half term this year as dd is in reception year at school. Mil had it in her head that she wanted to take the kids to soft play and got fed up because we wouldn't be around for her to do this. She even said to me one day " well, I did want to take the kids to soft play during half term but you're on holiday so that fucks that up". Erm, excuse me?? Sorry that we want to take the kids on holiday without you. She was only moaning because we were going to be away with my parents and she hated the thought. Basically, me and DH (especially me) feel like we're always trying to please everyone else on the family to 'make it fair'. It's really getting to me. Or, should i say, mil is really getting to me and I just want her to grow up and realise that there are other grandparents who love the children just as much as she does. She's even got fil to call me to find out if we've seen my family at all.
DH family has a WhatsApp group going at the moment as they are a VERY close family and my sil made a joke on the group asking if i had had enough of DH during lockdown and was moving down to my parents. I jokingly replied and said that i was close to it. About an hour later my fil calls us and asks DH if we're going to stay with my parents for the duration of lockdown and, if we are, then that would be really unfair to him and mil. Seriously? It was a joke. Even DH was like, "what the hell, no dad. It was just a joke". This is the kind of crap i have to put up with.
Please tell me others have the same problem with their in laws.......

OP posts:
Daisydoesnt · 16/05/2020 08:01

OP you do realise you are NOT meant to be visiting anyone in their gardens, grandparents or otherwise?!

Princessmumma30 · 16/05/2020 08:07

@Daisydoesnt
We would be keeping well apart the whole time. We're not stupid and very cautious during this time. We haven't taken the kids out of the house for over 7 weeks so please, no judgement here.

OP posts:
VictoriaBun · 16/05/2020 08:08

Your mil already had the upper hand with you , because you are letting her have the control of your family and what, and when you do things.
Hope this comes across nicely, but you really need to grow a backbone and stop it now. If she's heard you have been somewhere, or seen someone and wants the ' payback ' then just say it's not convenient right now and stop the conversation there. End of.
She has to realise that she does not make the decisions on how your family is run . Having said that I don't mean start being unkind , or stop your dcs seeing their nan, just be clear to yourself that you and your dh are the ones who decide.

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CormoranStrike · 16/05/2020 08:14

I feel sorry for your MIL.

She’s fine for babysitting duties while you are working; you make that sound as if that’s you doing her a favour, and count that in the “she should be grateful” column.

And if I hadn’t seen my grandkids in seven weeks and found out you were relaxing the rules to let one set see them I would be desperate to see them too. That’s not immature, that’s grandparents missing the kids.

I am sure that if I was living this relationship I would find it draining, but by what you have written it really doesn’t sound so bad.

As MN often says, you don’t have an MIL problem, you dislike the way your DH and you are not in the same page about it.

CatFaceCats · 16/05/2020 08:15

Erm nope - she sounds unhinged and she gets away with it because you’ve let her get away with it for so long. Start putting your foot down.

Daisydoesnt · 16/05/2020 08:20

I’m sorry OP but you are not being over cautious at all - in fact cautious is the exact opposite of what you are being!

You are proposing four people from one household visiting two people in another. The guidelines are ONE person can meet ONE other person from another household, in a public place.

I notice you then said in your original post that you’d have to pop round later in the weekend to placate your MIL, so that’s another four people mixing with another two people.

So in total your family of four have mixed could have potentially infected two other two-person households.

The rules are there for a reason. Please follow them.

OnlyJudyCanJudgeMe · 16/05/2020 08:20

Why can’t you just say no?
No, the children aren’t having a sleepover, no we’re not arranging another day out, no that’s too many parcels?
Need to get your spineless DH told too!

Dreamersandwishers · 16/05/2020 08:26

Op you sound like me 20 years ago. You have to say no, kindly and stick to it. DH needs to agree.
My MIL is spoiled and childish to this day, but has learned that I don’t pander to her.

OnlyJudyCanJudgeMe · 16/05/2020 08:28

“ We would be keeping well apart the whole time. We're not stupid and very cautious during this time. We haven't taken the kids out of the house for over 7 weeks so please, no judgement here.”

Oh very very much judgement!!

nahnonever · 16/05/2020 08:30

My MIL would be exactly the same if I let her get away with it... but I don't

R2519 · 16/05/2020 08:42

Sonata OK for your parents to have days out and sleep overs with and break the lockdown rules to go and see but not your in laws.

She maybe a little full on but saying she is needy because she wants to have her share of seeing her grandchildren is unfair. You clearly don't like her that much OP and prefer your parents. There nothing wrong with that at all. I'm the same to be honest but don't begrudge your MIL for wanting to see her grandchildren. Maybe she is a lottle jealous you spend more time with your parents and do more things with them.

I know family can be a pain in the ass at the best of times but you have a responsibility to be fair to both sets of grandparents because its jot fair on them if they are left out on things when it's probably clear to them you prefer spending time with your parents.

Chloemol · 16/05/2020 08:43

To be fair i can see you mil side on seeing the kids now a.though what you intend to do is wrong. And you are teaching your kids the wrong lesson in breaking lockdown. They are excited, they may just ignore what you say for a hug, may want to use the loo, now you are having to see both set of grand parents. It’s people like you, happy to break lockdown that means R will start to rise and we go back into full lockdown, so thanks

I don’t care you have taken the kids out of the house for seven weeks, you are entitled to once a day for exercise, your choice not to.

You are now entitled to see one other person from another household at the park. I suggest you do that, for sat 10 minutes each , then you could include your in laws

Longer term either put up with it, or don’t tell your in laws what you are doing

PinkSpring · 16/05/2020 08:44

Just ignore her behaviour, she isn't going to change and pulling her up on it will no don't make the situation worse and she will act all "hurt" - it's not worth the argument.

Also, I have no issue with you meeting your family in a garden and socially distancing. If I can take my family to a park and be surrounded by loads of other families that are doing the same thing, then I am pretty sure that meeting one family in a garden and being 2m apart is actually a lower risk!! We are going to be doing the same soon.

PinkSpring · 16/05/2020 08:45

@Chloemol exercise is UNLIMITED in the UK

prolapsedmama · 16/05/2020 08:45

My relationship with my mil has improved by being proactive in making her feel like I'm making the effort. Maybe she feels like you organise things with your family but she has to make arrangements to see the kids in the holidays?

In my experience, seeing dc regularly and living 200 miles closer to than the other grandparents does not make them feel like they have it better and they still struggle to hide their jealousy! Maybe mine feel like they miss out on the 'extended' visits.

I now go along the lines of 'would you like the kids for a sleepover one night this half term? I know the kids would love it and unfortunately we wont be around much as we haven't seen my parents since xmas.' It has but me more in control and the constant demands have eased. Even with the most sane grandparents, you are going to have to make sure they know you are doing your best to make it fair. I do appreciate that when they are consumed with jealousy it's a nightmare but it will be because she's insecure.

NotStayingIn · 16/05/2020 08:45

But it sounds like you are actually doing more with your parents! And you do most things with your parents first, then reluctantly and begrudgingly replicate it for the in laws.

Possibly your MIL is being treated second best again and again and naturally is a bit hurt by this and now overreacts to it. It doesn’t mean she isn’t also a pain, but these things aren’t mutually exclusive are they. You might both be contributing to this negative scenario.

prolapsedmama · 16/05/2020 08:47

And just to add, regardless of whether you're meant to be seeing them, choosing to see one set of gps over another at this time is quite harsh. Most peoples mental health has been affected by lockdown and if she already had jealousy issues I imagine it will not help your situation

Shoxfordian · 16/05/2020 08:48

You're not following the social distancing rules but apart from that, you need to stop pandering to her idea that you need to do exactly the same with her as with your parents

LizzieSiddal · 16/05/2020 08:48

I’m a little confused. How do you expect your MIL to react when she finds out her grandchildren are off to your mum, but no arrangements have been made to see her? I’d be upset too!

LizzieSiddal · 16/05/2020 08:48

And you should be visiting anyone’s garden!

TorkTorkBam · 16/05/2020 08:49

Your DH is too scared of his parents being in a huff. You don't have to be the same. You can say no.

Minai · 16/05/2020 08:58

Stop pandering to her. She’s acting like a toddler throwing a tantrum to get what they want and you are giving in. If she (in the future) wants the kids for a sleepover just because your mum has had them over for a sleepover just tell her no!

Chloemol · 16/05/2020 09:04

@PinkSpring yes it is now, but not before last weekend. The op is saying she has not been out of the house for 7 weeks I was saying that’s her choice as she could have gone out once a day to exercise

Clearer now?

Selfsettling3 · 16/05/2020 09:06

If she asks like a toddler then you need to treat her tantrums like a toddler. Don’t engage in the trantrums and stop rewarding them.

R2519 · 16/05/2020 09:07

@Minai
But why should OPs mother have the grandchildren for a sleep over but her MIL be excluded? Unless there is some big back story here her MIL is being excluded from spending g time with her grand children for no reason other than OP prefers to see her parents.