Despicable Anti Dementors

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I can't believe I started a free trial of the Telegraph just so I can read a more nuanced reporting of this pandemic.

That's exactly what I did the other day too

Some of the threads on mn are so vitriolic and frothy at the moment that I actually cant understand what's being said. If someone says open the fucking schools I can't tell if they actually want to or it's bitter sarcasm.

There's a poster on another thread whose 3 year old won't leave the house - of course people are shouting to force him and that it can't be corona related etc etc.

It is insane that the left want to lock themselves up for longer

No, they don't want to lock themselves up for longer. They want to lock other people up. They are prepared to be locked in if it means there is greater control of the oiks that won't vote for them.

The authoritarian left has taken control of left wing politics in recent years.

They are not popular, but they don't want to sully themselves by trying to win elections. Coercion and institutional capture are their games and lockdown means the public are captured and easy to manipulate through fear.

It should be laughable that the unions want us locked up by a government of Tory incompetents and liars. But they do, because they see it as an opportunity.

At least the Tories seem to be (mostly) unwilling captors, even if they lack the leadership to let us out.

At least we finally have a leader of the Opposition who is worth his salt. Are there enough competent, non-authoritarians left in the Labour party to actually hold the government to account? We'll see.

Speaking as a leftie myself: I am getting the impression that a lot of the very left people I know spend a lot of time on very American-dominated platforms like Twitter etc, and now think any move to lift lockdown is the same as what Trump wants to do. They never compare it to say Norway or Germany.

But what I don’t get is that we always knew the lockdown wouldn’t be forever. Whether you think it’s temporary so the NHS wouldn’t get overwhelmed but we’ll still all get the virus (old government view) or temporary so we can put test and trace procedures in place (new government view) it was always planned and presented as temporary. So why now do so many people think it needs to be in place indefinitely until the virus has totally gone? We do have to go outside again at some point!

Yes something many schools do is 'The Daily Mile" started in Scotland in an area of deprivation and low fitness.....would be a great way of getting the DC back out and build up fitness and could be done with social distancing

thedailymile.co.uk

Talking of Keir Starmer I noticed he was very vocal about wanting a plan to come out of lockdown when it was not being given...

Yes, it has got caught up with the US anti-Trump discourse, with its monomaniacal focus on one man, as though that man isn't the logical result of the Republican Party since Reagan.

Ugh. Feeling really down today. I know NS is going to give us some minor easing next week but we dont even know what day she's making her speech on, and I fear it's going to be a vague Welsh style thing rather than an actual plan.

We've got a holiday booked next month, not through a package, but a DIY job and we were planning to travel to three or four different countries. I know it's very unlikely to happen in the original form but I'd just like a bit of certainly. I'm worried we'll be lumped paying for some of all of the bits we've booked.

Yes GoldenOmber, what happened to the talk of flattening the curve, they were even singing about that on the BBC at one point 'lets flatten the curve' and it being like a sombrero..

I've just seen a statement from the MP of a local seaside town. Pretty balanced I thought. Saying he knew people were worried about day trippers coming from the Midlands (our traditional tourist base here, not a slur against midlander!) where there have been higher rates of infection, but we can't really stop them as they are perfectly entitled to.
Pointed out that there's nothing much open in town, they won't be staying on holiday as hotels and campsites are shut, the beach is 9 MILES long, so there is plenty of space for everyone to spread out and we can head inland to the countryside and hills if we think the beach will be busy.

Talking of Keir Starmer I noticed he was very vocal about wanting a plan to come out of lockdown when it was not being given...

Yup.

I shouldn't talk about Starmer without declaring my massive hero worship of him since he was the DPP

Oh sorry that was out local area BBC news I remember listening to it..

www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife/band-release-catchy-coronavirus-song-3979620

If you want the joy of a listen

Also theres a story today in the Daily Record that no contact traces have been employed by the Scottish Government. There's a big testing centre down the road from us which hardly anyone is using. I don't understand why it's all such a shambles but loads of folk are ignoring that and being fixated about being on lockdown forever.

I'm expecting the grannies death toll to be astronomical.

You're behind the times, the grannies will get it and go to hospital. The nurse (or other) looking after them, who has children will catch it and die.

I know the mental gymnastics are hard to keep up with but we need to keep our focus in the right place.

Could be a Dementor Anthem

we can head inland to the countryside and hills if we think the beach will be busy.

I grew up in a seaside town. That's how locals have always dealt in the summer influx.

Wanting distance from the Midlanders (who pay your way through winter) is a proud seaside tradition.

Yes i saw quite a bit of criticism on care home deaths in Scotland. NS is known for her posturing e.g. remember Baby Boxes and free sanitary products for example, while things like poverty deprivations and education is not good in general.. Scotland used to be known for it's good education. I find it upsetting.

I saw the most dementory post I think Ive ever seen on a thread about garden centres being open.

Some poor woman was on oxygen and has probably been stuck inside for weeks and finally got to go out. Cue dementor:

"selfish cow, she'll end up in hospital, the nurse who treats her will get it and spread it to her 15 kids. They'll all be seriously ill. The nurse will die leaving the kids motherless then her partner will get it, spread to other nurses who will ALL DIE, they'll be a whole school full of parent less kids all because of THAT WOMAN"

I mean, you have to laugh its so utterly ridiculous. Its like the plot to a final destination film!

I mean, if we're just making stuff up I could easily suggest that the dementor poster could be typing this on her keyboard and spreading covid to her husband. He uses her computer, gets covid, goes to work in a care home, ALL the residents die, he dies, but not before he's been shopping in Tescos and infects every person in the place- they all die too. All because one dementor decides to type something mean on the internet!"

See?- we can ALL make up ridiculous scenarios

Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't very clever. That's why governments use short snappy slogans:

Stay home, save lives, protect the nhs.

Unfortunately the flip side is what the dementors think other people are doing, which is:

Leave the house = kill people & destroy the NHS.

They need to get a better slogan to promote the easing of lockdown.

I think the government messed this up in more than one way by underestimating the severity of this virus at the beginning. Now a huge section of the population are convinced it’s a lurking monster out to get them personally as soon as they step outdoors and are never going to listen to the government saying “the risk is low.”

Nihilostica quite!
People who wouldn't normally set foot on the beach on a Bank Holiday ard now obsessed with fencing off every grain of sand and strand of seaweed to keep them secure. It's a local beach, for local people now!
Needless to say the MP is now being bombarded with messages about his statement not reassuring anyone and he's condemned the whole county to certain death.
Must check if the nice ice cream parlour is open for business.

*Unfortunately the flip side is what the dementors think other people are doing, which is:

Leave the house = kill people & destroy the NHS.*

Yes, that's it. You're so right.

Makes me feel less alone that there are other lefties feeling a bit 'wtf'. I've been threatening to cancel my Guardian membership, it's that bad!
In fact, everything has gone completely topsy turvy as the world goes mad around me. I've never been anything like an earth mother but I'm finding myself feeling just desperate for all the children being denied a normal life and an education at the moment.

I totally agree that we've imported American discourse into this. So for example no one can point to the Swedish model as interesting & worth engaging with, because some American Alt Right types latched onto their own (very innaccurate) interpretation of what the Swedes were doing (hilariously - given Sweden is just the sort of hotbed of liberalism, state intervention & socialised medicine they would normally denounce). I've been particularly pissed off with the Guardian, despite being a loyal reader for twenty years. But then I guess a country where everyone lost their shit online over Vegan sausage rolls was never going to have a measured nuanced discussion about a global pandemic.