Chickens Against Dementors!

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Anyway have fun everyone, I'm off to sit in the park now that it's allowed.

I found something that referenced the study but it said that the figure was based on people admitted to hospital for over two weeks, so surely that skews things? I am so NOT a statistician!

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

That would depend how much you're spending on the car, Spnbaby. Also if the car is in any way fun, and an interesting colour.
For instance, a new yellow open top MG would kill thousands, a grey Corsa with a lot of miles on the clock just a couple of families

Hmmm, how does a 7 seater suv in blue count? I want the big, fast, all bells and whistles one. But now should I consider a more boring basic grey?

Ty @Orangeblossom78 - I've saved those to start working through.

I just keep pointing out that on a 7 day average (which is what we are told to use due to the fluctuations in reporting) the deaths are falling by about 100 a week

Plus we know that with a lot of the deaths, some poor COVID patients really linger so many of the current deaths are patients who could have been infected weeks ago. It doesn't represent people who caught it last week, necessarily.

One positive thing I was thinking about earlier re schools - before the lockdown all school staff in our region were asked by the LA to sign up voluntarily to help cover the supervision of key workers' children in local primary schools, so that staff could be rotad for one day a fortnight to minimise exposure (it was voluntary for the normal teachers at those primaries as well). I haven't been called in and neither have any of my colleagues that I know of, so presumably that means enough teachers volunteered that we weren't needed.

I'm on another forum that's specifically for teachers (not TES!) and haven't dared say anything about wanting to go back because I know I'll just get shouted down. The other members whom I'm pretty sure feel the same are being very quiet as well. I do think there's more opposition to returning online than in real life, probably because the contingent that thinks we're going to die are a lot more vocal about it and those of us who want to go back are afraid to speak up.

yes there definatley is

Oh they're positively salivating over the R rate and the VE Day Death Congas elsewhere.

20% wanting Y6 to go back at my kids' juniors... 18% part time. Middle class as fuck school.

Ok the 30% thing, this is from some studies on intensive care I think about the very sickest patients, so out of very ill patents in hospital about 60% survive and 30% die. But that is out of the small proportion of people who get very ill and need treatment in the hospital.

If you watch the Chris Whitty talk earlier upthread you can see he mentions that a small amount of people do get very ill but the majority have a mild or moderate illness. So hope this clarifies things a bit.

"Things that currently sound less fun:
Today
Tomorrow
Getting up
Going to bed
Watching the fucking TV
Not watching the fucking TV"

I agree. I was so excited when British Gas rang to make an appointment to service my boiler that the guy on the phone ended up laughing at me.

And then a real human being turned up and came into my house. I think he realised how pleased I was to see him as he spent ages giving the boiler a good clean up. And we had a bit of a chat across two rooms. With the window open.

I think theres rumblings across society tbh. We just arnt noisy. And we dont make sexy news for the media.

MIL came round earlier and we had hair cuts. Outside in the garden. All good.

It does seem to be changing. Even on here. I mean still dementoring over figures, but less of the shaming of people doing stuff isn't there. Possibly.

I've got a tree surgeon coming round tomorrow, neighbour who backs onto us wants to trim my tree as they're putting a building down the end of the garden.

My garden.
His choice to come here.
Neighbour requisitions and pays for works.

I can't work out who's murdering who.

Prof. Sikora on twitter reminding people that the R number also rose in Germany and has now been reversed.

Thanks Orange. I did read something (Bloomberg I think) that said deaths were high on general wards too, but tbh that doesn't surprise me, given the state of general wards normally (NOT nurse bashing btw, just an observation from experience with hospitals).
I'm worrying now that they won't let them go back in September! I might have to emigrate to Denmark. Fuckit, lets all go.

We have been on two day trips in our campervan to the seaside after we were allowed from Wednesday onwards. They were both fairly enormous beaches and pretty unpopulated. Didn't get any nasty comments from locals but lots of nice comments about the campervan. The teenagers got to fish in the sea and the youngest and I explored and built sandcastles in the sun. Was lovely.

I have no school age children, so I don't know why the schools stuff is making me so cross, but it is! I've just watched that piece with Steve Chalke on the BBC this morning. The interviewer was really prissy with him. He made his point about disadvantaged children so well, and obviously cares about the effect not attending school is having on them.

Then I read that Liverpool council "defies" government reopening plans. I guess they don't have many disadvantaged children in Liverpool then.

I've just had a very jolly Tesco delivery man. We had a laugh about the fact that I'd ordered a special offer 4 pack of lager for DH and they'd substituted me with a box of 10... DH was smiling too. Happy days are on horizon.

Kids just rang - apparently the reason DD1 has been arguing with me is "lockdown is boring... it was fun at the start".

Not much I can do to sort that one out hun.

30% of Covid patients who have to go into hospital die?

I haven't seen that statistic specifically, but according to the ICNARC survey patients who were admitted to ICU had recovered in about 50% of closed cases (i.e. where the patient was no longer in ICU because they'd either been discharged or died). If the figure of a 30% death rate for all hospitalised patients is accurate, that suggests that about 60% of hospitalised patients are being admitted to ICU, and therefore that the majority of people aren't being hospitalised at all unless they're already very very ill. I don't know for sure if that's the case, but it fits with what I've heard anecdotally. Not as alarming a figure as it first sounds, at any rate.

Prof. Sikora on twitter reminding people that the R number also rose in Germany and has now been reversed.

Thank God for some sense.

'Hmmm, how does a 7 seater suv in blue count? I want the big, fast, all bells and whistles one. But now should I consider a more boring basic grey?'

Omg I can't believe you're even considering blue at a time like this People are DYING!

@RubberDinghyRapids I think that there is a circular firing squad

Having a nice day today. I pitched the tent in the garden for DS. He’s loving it. Been looking at nice local campsites and reviews of small child sleeping bags all day. I might even look for one of those nifty folding carts for hauling stuff around the campsite. Does that count as premeditation?

I can`t wait to go camping. Id do a wildcamp on a local beach if I could hide my parked car overnight!

I haven’t been since before having DS! But putting the tent up brought back so many happy memories... DH isn’t a lover of camping though so need to find a pub with a really good pub nearby to placate him