Anti-Dementor Alliance Thread - learn how to produce your patronus here

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@GoldenOmber

I want lockdown lifted as it is apparently going to be, gradually in a measured way.

I dont want thousands more people to die, but i equally dont want thousands of people plunged into poverty because some people are too scared to go back to work.

Essentially i want balance, but most of all i want DS to go back to nursery for his own sake as well as the fact it means i can go back to work (if there is indeed a job to go back to) and we can continue to pay our mortgage.

The one thing i am sick and tired of is people crying over schools re opening. Dont send your kids then. And teachers crying about how its not safe. Interestingly i havent seen any NHS staff or Supermarket staff rallying their unions.

Like I said, not looking to fight about it. My kids will be going back to school/nursery the second they’re opened belieeeeeeeve me.

I do wonder how prevalent the “no child of mine will be setting foot in a classroom!” thing actually is. I suspect the people who are fine to send our kids back just aren’t making as big a thing of it on social media compared to the “I want my child to LIVE!” types.

It was interesting to read from the pp in Australia saying they'd pretty much all gone back.

i dont want to fight either, i was just letting you know that i am not planning on joining any demonstrations any time soon, nor am i judging you for your very reasonable POV.

Yes, i think mostly people who want their kids to go to school arent posting on FB for fear of being judged as uncaring child murderers. Thats why i havent posted on FB.

I did ring nursery this morning as i missed their catch up call on friday and fortunately the staff seem to actually want the kids back as soon as its allowed. I am so glad.

Just seen the following conversation on a dementor SNP's facebook page. I know I should hide/mute, but its sort of entertaining in a sick way.

Just curious if it's possible to start a petition up to close the border or would it be pointless?
There's one already on the 38 degrees website
just found out that they've taken it down for 'inappropriate content' whatever that means!

@mascotte there's a good article by Kevin McKenna in the Herald today, it might cheer you up.

I'm not posting on FB about my feelings. Not least because mine are not in the relevant years.

I enjoyed this extract from the Times’s daily political briefing email.

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Wait... what? That's a thing? TIL.

In terms of closing the borders I am guessing most advocates don't live in the border regions where hoping over is the norm. Also how do you close a completely open border?

Not at all GoldenOmber. I certainly don’t think lockdown should be lifted immediately. I think we should be talking small, careful steps to get out of it, as we can’t stay in forever. However the dementors are protesting against even the tiniest of steps out of it.

Thenightsky

How the hell do they think they are going to get supplies if they close the border? How are people from england who work in scotland and vica versa supposed to continue?
The ridiculously limited number of police we have round here cant be sitting at the border checking every damm car and lorry all day.

Do they think there is just one road from england to scotland? There are lots of small roads that cross back and forwards how are they supposed to police all of them?
Dreamers!

I think we should bring the army in @TheGreatWave 😂

How would we even close the border when we’re not supposed to travel? Mobilise every sheep within 30 miles of Gretna?

Needed urgent script for an issue with my
Pregnancy.

Call GP as I can’t go in, fine, who tells me it’s a two working day wait and then they’ll post it to me, not the pharmacy directly. Nope, that would actually be helpful. Wait your turn peasant!

Alternative is the hospital, so go there, its sorted in 20 mins, but the catch is you need to wait in a room with three people people who have absolutely barking coughs and no masks. It gets better, they give me 7 pills and tell me to go see my GP for any extras.

What exactly are we protecting the NHS from? Presumably working.

@Mascotte we're lucky - the orders for our hoodies went in first week in March so we hand delivered them to the kids on the day schools closed.

it's all the other stuff - two of the parents have volunteered to put together a video of memories for the kids but we can't force people to take part. Usually school gets them all to write their memories in class and then they each get a folder to take home with everyone's memories - again because of homeschooling they can't force children or parents to do it so it's incomplete. Goodness knows what their plans are for transition to S1.

I genuinely have no idea how quickly we should be releasing the lockdown and what steps should be taken first. I don't feel like any of us have enough information to make a call on this (and it sounds like the government don't either!). But I do think that those struggling with mental health should take things into their own hands. If a socially distanced cup of tea with your mum in the garden is going to really help you (or her) then I say go for it.

That house of commons meme is the stupidest among a very high calibre of stupid.

It was posted on my fb by someone who home schools anyway.

Have left wing people become unable to read, infer, judge and assess for themselves? When someone says 'if, and only if, it is safe to to so we'll begin a measured reopening of schools', all they can get from that is 'we're going to shove your kids in like cattle in a fortnight and they'll probably die'.

I'm afraid I've become an 'I despairer'. Because I fucking despair.

I don’t think you can just blame left wingers MorrisZapp. I am as left wing as they come and wouldn’t dream of sharing ridiculous memes like that. Left wingers can also use common sense . Equally some of my Tory family and friends are spouting some absolute nonsense!

Fair point. My own family are extreme left wingers and they think Boris wants them to be dead. I'm a centre lefty and think that most politicians, while flawed, probably want us to thrive and do well, even if only because that would make them look good.

Dominic Raab, via the BBC news:
"So we've said that as long as you go out of home, for the park, for exercise, whatever it may be, you can go with members of your own household."

I thought this had always been the case? I mean, if a member of your own household has CV and you haven't caught it in the home you share with them, it's not going to make the great leap when you go out, is it?

"If you're out in the park and you're 2m apart... and use some common sense and you socially-distance, you can meet up with other people."

Again, this isn't new, is it? People have been doing it for weeks (and posting about it here, and ofc being told that PEOPLE WILL DIE etc etc, or seeing the reaction and doing it but not posting about it. Or maybe that's just me.)

Asked if someone could meet more than two people at different times, for example their mother in the morning and father in the afternoon, Mr Raab said: "Outside in the outdoors, staying 2m apart, yes."

Again, not new.

However, the UK government put out a clarification saying people can only meet one person outside if you follow social distancing - not two people, such as both parents, at the same time.

I completely fail to see why the virus can't jump 2m outdoors from one person but it can from two. Does one person's virus give the other one's a boost?

Nonsense like this reduces the authority of government statements. If they want to be seen as reliable they can't put out things that make someone go, "Well, that just doesn't follow".

@MorrisZapp I was quite left wing and pro indy before all this started but I'm not sure what I am now. From a socialist point of view the harm of the lockdown is going to be greatest to the poorest.

The people hijacking all this to demand a socialist revolution or Scottish independence are really getting on my tits now, because they're doing their best to ramp up people's fears to further their own ends. It's disgusting.

@GoldenOmber.

My feeling - and I hope I'm right! - is that this thread is basically for anyone who can be fairly measured and polite and not tell people to fuck off at the drop of a hat?! I'm definitely turning into an anti-lockdown dementor (so should probably also leave for the opposite reason from you!) but reading between the lines, I'm sure we're all very different people with different political and social views yet we're the best part through 3 threads and it hasn't yet been derailed by totally inappropriate rudeness and aggression - unlike most others!
So yay to us I say!
But christ, the schools thread... It's really got unbearable. I wish they would all just go and home educate. If they honestly think it's a life or death situation, and they would rather face homelessness and starvation, or whatever, then surely, reorganise your work life, take the drop in salary, risk the homelessness you say you don't care about, and leave the rest of us alone to herd our children to their early DEATHS.
It feels like government by social media.

I love the haven of sanity provided by these threads and I absolutely don't want to turn them political. I have sympathy with many of the Indy arguments, although I'll always be a no voter. It's the wild extremes everyone has to go to that make me so discouraged.

I'll keep it non party political.

The sharing of stupid memes on my FB seems to be pretty evenly distributed between left and ring wingers to be fair.

Not that I'm seeing them as from today- I've snoozed pretty much most of my FB friends now. Which just leaves, strangely, a lot of videos about how to apply pink eyeshadow (never worn it in my life) or 'simple' (ie needs four hands to do them) styles for long hair.

So that's nice