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Tappering · 09/05/2020 18:50

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justasking111 · 10/05/2020 20:14

We have all been so careful in the family, online shopping which gets washed, not going out except to exercise dogs/children, shoes disinfected and left in porch, door handles, switches cleaned every other day. All that and still no end in sight for loved ones to see each other.

RumbaswithPumbaas · 10/05/2020 20:19

If the non-essential journeys thing is lifted, presumably we can visit family if socially distant (I’m thinking picnic outside?)

Mascotte · 10/05/2020 20:25

Thanks all you murderers.

And @thesuninsagittarius I feel similar, I just can't go on like this for months and my poor boy is not going to get the end of his primary school or to see his friends. It's just too shit.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 10/05/2020 20:26

@Mascotte we're getting there lovely. You know what, people are going to start stretching these new guidelines so do what you need to do to keep sane. As long as you don't take risks - fuck it.

Zoidbergonthehalfshell · 10/05/2020 20:26

@justasking111, have a virtual hug from me. I feel the same - what he said was all well and good, as far as it went, but there was no acknowledgement of how hard this is for separated families or how it's going to be addressed. My friend has a grandchild she hasn't been able to see apart from over the internet - I'm finding it hard enough, and my kids are grown up. Come on, Boris. Throw us a bone.

RunningNinja79 · 10/05/2020 20:26

I'm in two minds how I feel. Nothing has changed yet which I expected still I couldn't help hoping it would. Then again with knowing that they are looking at changing more things in June hopefully (if the threat of covid stays at a decent level or goes down) has made me feel more positive. I think for me personally its another 3 weeks of the same, but there is finally some light at the end of the tunnel.

Sorry to hear about PP's who are feeling worse by tonights announcement. I'm genuinely surprised that visiting friends/family wasn't mentioned. I thought that's what most people were wanting to know and surely the government are aware of that.

MagdaS · 10/05/2020 20:30

I feel totally depressed by the whole thing. It does feel like there's no end in sight. Weeks more of struggling and juggling, with no outlet or normal coping mechanisms.

My 23 year old cousin has also turned into a dementor. She's been furloughed and is taking the opportunity to finish her thesis, so of course she thinks it's wonderful to stay at home.

Mikki2019 · 10/05/2020 20:35

@Mascotte aren’t y6 going back ?

Mikki2019 · 10/05/2020 20:37

If you go on Boris Johnson Instagram there Is a link to ask a question for press conference tomorrow ..

psychomath · 10/05/2020 20:39

Mikki2019 only in England

DominaShantotto · 10/05/2020 20:42

Kids are now going to have a "holiday" at grandparents later in the week - just to give them some change of scenery and chance to be a kid again. She's got a huge garden with woodland and trees and loads of hidey holes so fuck it - we are breaking the rules and they're taking them for a bit.

Mikki2019 · 10/05/2020 20:49

Ah ofc @psychomath

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 10/05/2020 20:52

If the non-essential journeys thing is lifted, presumably we can visit family if socially distant

He said we can travel when talking about exercise, so I'm working on the assumption that if people travel to the same place to exercise as their friends or family then it is a massive comincidence isn't it?

The thing about exercising with on,y your own household felt like an afterthought.

My theory is that the govt will give orders, but let's face it, people are already pushing against it. So they'll let us. Then, if the infection rate increases, they will turn around and say it's all our own fault.

But the truth is, this lockdown is more damaging than the consequences to our mental and physical health, to our relationships and to children than the threat of the virus now. So we should be allowed to make our own decisions and risk assessments.

Russellbrandshair · 10/05/2020 20:55

Dementors are furious he wants to try to slowly move things back to normal. Do they really think we can afford to furlough people until next year? The delusion is strong

Jourdain11 · 10/05/2020 20:56

Wondering if the Key Workers children scheme is still going to be in place? DS is Reception, but DDs are Y2 and 3. DH teaches Y6. If he is in school, then we kind of would need them all to be in too. Confused

There needs to be clarity on the friends and family thing. I don't see what harm a bit of limited socially-distanced mixing could do, if unlimited outside time and driving is now allowed? I thought maybe he said "household groups" about sport because they want to avoid huge kick abouts in the park / mass cricket on the green type of thing...

LilacTree1 · 10/05/2020 21:00

How can dementors be furious? Almost nothing has changed except fines will be higher.

Orangeblossom78 · 10/05/2020 21:01

I too live in a flat, thank God will be able to continue having picnics and going to the park without getting stick from dementors!

I notice it says on the BBC news

The BBC understands that the changes in the guidelines will mean two friends would be able to sit more than two metres apart in a park, and also that sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will now be possible for people in the same household.

So that might be a way of meeting family

www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518

Orangeblossom78 · 10/05/2020 21:02

I expect they are furious they won't be able to tell people to stay the f**ck at home etc Lilac

TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 10/05/2020 21:04

There is already a petition going which over 50k have signed asking that if schools go back, parents won't face sanctions if they don't want to send their children back.

Orangeblossom78 · 10/05/2020 21:05

If a park why not a garden Confused hopefully they will just say to be sensible and get on with it

TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 10/05/2020 21:05

The BBC understands that the changes in the guidelines will mean two friends would be able to sit more than two metres apart in a park, and also that sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will now be possible for people in the same household.

I saw that in the Guardian. You can meet someone from another household as long as it's just two people and you stay 2m apart. Not sure where they've got that from because Boris didn't mention it!

bookworm14 · 10/05/2020 21:11

Latest from a dementor on my FB: the ‘confusing’ new slogan is a deliberate attempt to encourage people to break lockdown so they can be blamed when it has to be tightened up again in three weeks. Confused

psychomath · 10/05/2020 21:15

For what its worth, I think the balance is beginning to shift and we're starting to hear more & more about the collateral damage. As with every debate in this country there'll be very vocal entrenched people on both sides, but I think the 'middle ground' is tilting.

I agree, and what's more I think it's inevitable. It's human nature to be sociable and to want the best for our (generic 'our') children, and the longer people are kept in isolation with increasingly frustrated and unhappy families the more they're going to start questioning - rightly or wrongly - why we're doing this. Even people who are still strongly in favour of lockdown because they know someone who's died, unless it's someone very close to them, are going to find those concerns outweighed by their personal day to day struggles as time goes on.

People are already finding ways to get around/interpret the restrictions so they can still see family and friends, and they have been since close to the start - imagine how many more people who've so far been sticking rigidly to the strictest interpretation of the guidance will start to think "one time won't hurt" after three more weeks of falling death rates, loneliness, cranky children, increased reporting on collateral deaths and no clear idea of when it will end. The government couldn't (can't) stop this if they wanted to - lockdown only works when there's willing compliance from most people, and as time goes on that willingness is going to become stretched ever thinner.

Dementing is like paving over a wasteland. At the start the ground might look smothered to the point where nothing else can survive, but give it long enough and the weeds win out, every time.

littlbrowndog · 10/05/2020 21:21

Awesome psycho math. Agree.

Russellbrandshair · 10/05/2020 21:22

Dementing is like paving over a wasteland. At the start the ground might look smothered to the point where nothing else can survive, but give it long enough and the weeds win out, every time

Yes this is so so true. Once people’s mental health starts suffering more than their fear of the virus the dementors will be outnumbered and then that will be that. Their voices will be drowned out by everyone else