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DP claims to want to stop drinking/smoking at his friends' but he constantly slips up, sobs & apologizes, then does it again.

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RixtonRails · 26/04/2020 21:37

Long story short- been with DP (he is mid-30s) just over a year. He used to be quite a smoker and heavy drinker yet has a lot of self awareness and has wanted to quit smoking and reduce his drinking for over a decade.

He used to idolize rock musicians and so followed their lifestyle in terms of smoking and drinking.

He said when he was younger he couldn't stand the smell of cigarette smoke, and even when he's quit for a while, he realises how gross it smells.

When we met just over a year ago, he told me he smokes but is trying to quit (and was chewing nicotine gum even that day).

Ever since then, he'd been chewing tons of nicotine gum and hardly ever actually smoking (he rarely even owns cigs) but most of his friends are heavy smokers and one in particular (nearly 40, unemployed, single father) is one he often hangs around and had known for a decade who lives closeby - which is where DP usually slips up (almost on a weekly basis, every time he has gone around). This friend is a chain smoker that smokes all day and night, hardly eats and just drinks booze all day, playing video games and watching TV all day, everyday.

DP used to say he got lonely as we didn't live together, which is why he'd often go around to this particular friend (who has all the time in the world as he's single) and that if during lockdown, I were to come and stay with him, he'd feel no need to fill the emotional void by going around there, etc. and DP weaned off the nicotine gum really well within a week and then went through a period of rolling up tobacco and putting it under his top lip which was a bit gross but he said it wouldn't be as harmful as smoking it and it's only a temporary/transitional thing but every 2 days or so, he'd slip up at around midnight, especially if he was tipsy and sitting outside in his garden, roll it up and take a drag, before throwing it away in disgust.

He'd ALWAYS be honest and confess to me without me even asking him. He has never once been deceitful about it.

Then, the other day he used a silly pointless excuse whilst out exercising to go to the home of afore mentioned friend (the chain smoking, unemployed one) for a beer (sat in his driveway). DP ended up smoking (he most often craves cigarettes when he is drunk - he says so himself). When he came home, he cried his eyes out telling me how disappointed he is in himself and showered and scrubbed and how he really wants to change and he hates how much this addiction is eating away at him.

After he slipped up those few times, he told me he would no longer buy rolling tobacco to put under his top lip and he would go properly cold turkey, which he managed successfully for 2 entire days and I praised him for how much of an achievement that is.

... yet today, he without telling me, went to his friend's place again on the way back from exercise (he said he kinda thought about it the last second as he was heading out so packed 2 beers with him). When he got back, he immediately had tears in his eyes. I asked him what's up? He was sobbing again and told me he went around to that friend's house and had a few beers and smoked some cigs off his friend. He said he didn't even really wanna see him but just went around as subconsciously he thinks he wanted a nicotine hit.

Again, he agreed with me when I was angry at him, he apologised, sobbed and begged me to carry on being strict with him (I said I'm getting tired of being the "nag" and he said his life depends on it and if he doesn't do it now, he'll never do it as he's never been in love with anyone as much as me) and that he's hugely TERRIFIED of dying as almost all of his male relatives have died of cancer (often associated with smoking and drinking and he seems to have a family history of male smokers and heavy drinkers).

I don't know what to do.

On the positive side, he's weaned off the nicotine gum successfully, doesn't own any tobacco and managed without for 2 days and has been totally honest when he's slipped up and keeps telling me he's always wanted to quit, willing to try therapies/services for it.

On the negative side, he's been trying to quit for over a decade (i.e. before he met me) and it's not worked, he has this huge affinity for that bad influence friend, he was deceptive to go to his friend's (even though he told me afterwards) AND worst of all, basically broke lockdown rules and put both of us at risk of covid just to feed his addiction... addicts always put their addiction before even the people they love rings true :(

I don't know what to do - he keeps telling me to be patient (as I've said I can't cope with all this forever) and he will change but how long to wait is reasonable? I am really patient with him, so supportive, encourage him when he's done well, try to empathize with him, I know he has to want it for himself and he keeps insisting he really really does and cries about the fact he has this addiction.

In every other way, we are such a good fit and he treats me so well (almost like a person treats their newborn child lol, always like I'm the most special thing in the world, completely faithful, caring, etc. but I just feel sad his addictions could be an ender for us.

OP posts:
SmileyClare · 27/04/2020 09:51

I agree, also the crying and scrubbing himself in the shower after having a couple of fags at his mates house is worrying behaviour. Something isn't right here.

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 27/04/2020 09:54

Christ he’s quite the drama queen isn’t he, I couldn’t be arsed with all this

TheRealCaroleBaskin · 27/04/2020 09:56

He's got way worse problems than drinking and smoking!

AzraiL · 27/04/2020 10:04

I felt exhausted reading your post, OP.
How the hell is he going to cope if you both move in together and face more problems, that are financial, social or emotional in nature?
You need a life partner, not an angsty teenager who cannot handle himself or a little bit of stress and pressure.
Do you really want to invest more time and energy into someone who'll crack so easily?

letsjog · 27/04/2020 10:04

He's mid 30's ?!
I've thought barely hit 20s and an immature 20 to boot.
What's with all the sobbing and drama?

Wewearpinkonwednesdays · 27/04/2020 10:41

You both sound quite dramatic. Him with his dramatic behaviour, and you for lapping it up.

longwayoff · 27/04/2020 11:01

Hey OP, I watched 4 episodes of 'A new life in Spain, Costa Chaos' on Utube over the weekend. Sadly, last 6 episodes not available. Anyway, have a look at the relationship between the 2 participants. Then have a closer look. Compare Rocco with your partner then make the decision she should have made.

saints11 · 27/04/2020 11:27

It will be painful but I think you should end the relationship. Both for you and I think a wake up call for him to sort himself out.

springydaff · 27/04/2020 11:27

Sounds like the vast majority of respondents don't have the dreaded addiction. It's hell on earth to be caught by the neck by an addiction - you are indeed powerless, as the 12-steps go. Choice doesn't come into it by this stage, as he has seen. People may pour derision on the agonies of addiction but they are very real once someone is well and truly caught.

BUT you're on a hiding to nothing getting involved, especially to this degree. This HAS to be his journey, from top to bottom. It is extraordinarily off-putting for you to be faced with this when you're supposed to be in the honeymoon period, having just moved in together. Unless he gets into effective recovery the highs and lows will continue year after year unabated.

He could try this, I'm not sure if meetings are still going in the UK though. He may be powerless but he has to be dedicated to recovery - and it sounds as though he is desperate. All you describe is the exact trajectory, and grinding misery, of every addict who despairs of ever getting free.

BUT its not your problem, it's his. Addictions are like black holes/dementors, they suck the very soul out of anyone in close, even far, vicinity.

Have a look at this. Drinking may not be his primary addiction but he is an addict (if he did manage to stop smoking, another addiction would take its place, probably - like wack-a-mole) and the principles of Al-anon apply across the board of all addictions.

And move out. He is in active addiction which will suck you down into the pit of hell with him.

MulticolourMophead · 27/04/2020 11:29

OP, you're wasting time on this bloke. Get rid, and do the freedom programme.

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SmileyClare · 27/04/2020 11:36

He is in active addiction which will suck you down into the pit of hell with him

Eh? He's having a couple of lagers on the driveway once a week and bummed a few fags off his mate. He's an annoying social smoker who steals other people's cigarettes. No one's in a pit of Hell.

springydaff · 27/04/2020 11:39

Read up about addiction, Smiley.

RixtonRails · 27/04/2020 12:02

Thanks a lot for your helpful detailed responses so far. I’ve ready every one of them.

I may have minimised the drinking a little - he came back functional but slurring his words and not being able to walk in a straight line. He had a full bottle of spirits on a weeknight last week and had an awful hangover for two days after that

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T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 27/04/2020 12:13

If you really believe he’s socially distancing, when he’s round getting pissed with his mate, you must have floated up the Lagan in a bubble, OP! Not only is he acting like an immature bloody teenager, has managed to manipulate you into moving in, making you feel like you have to nanny him, but most importantly, he’s putting you at risk of catching COVID19. Go home, think why you got involved with someone with issues and aim higher.

TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain · 27/04/2020 12:16

His relationship with Loser Friend sounds a bit weird and quite unhealthy. Is it just fags and booze they've always done together or is weed involved?

ALovelyBitOfSquirrel · 27/04/2020 12:19

In every other way, we are such a good fit and he treats me so well (almost like a person treats their newborn child lol, always like I'm the most special thing in the world, completely faithful, caring, etc. but I just feel sad his addictions could be an ender for us.

You are wasting your time and your life in this loser. He will never change and surely you must know you deserve better?!

SmileyClare · 27/04/2020 12:30

Are you much younger than him? You seem a little naive.

It is not romantic to be with a "tortured soul" who you can rescue with your special love.

For whatever reason, he is pretending to be someone he isn't with you and lying about his drinking. You are also being emotionally manipulated by him.
Declaring that he'd die without you, he needs you to fill an emotional void, the sobbing self pity, seeing himself as a victim, the drama etc are bigger red flags for me than the odd cigarette.

Would he support you through a difficult time? I doubt it, it's all about him and his emotional incontinence.

CheddarGorgeous · 27/04/2020 12:35

I may have minimised the drinking a little - he came back functional but slurring his words and not being able to walk in a straight line. He had a full bottle of spirits on a weeknight last week and had an awful hangover for two days after that

On what planet is not being able to walk straight functional? OP you have seriously skewed boundaries. He's sucked you in like some parasitic emotional vampire and you can't see him for what he is.

Get out, get help, live a happy life far away from him!

Fluffycloudland77 · 27/04/2020 12:41

If you want to stop drinking you just do. Even Russell Brand got clean.

It all sounds so tedious and juvenile. I particularly like the way he shifted the blame onto you, very manipulative behaviour. If you lived together what would the next excuse be?.

ChainsawBear · 27/04/2020 12:43

You are also being emotionally manipulated by him.
Declaring that he'd die without you, he needs you to fill an emotional void, the sobbing self pity, seeing himself as a victim, the drama etc are bigger red flags for me than the odd cigarette.

This. The drinking, which it seems you've significantly downplayed, may well be a real problem, but the glaring red flags in your post are that he's needy, dependent, and manipulative, no matter how many PhDs he has. He's not a prospect for a serious relationship and your relationship isn't healthy. (I can't believe you typed that line about him treating you like a newborn and didn't realise how utterly fucked up it sounded.)

End it. It's going nowhere except misery and dysfunction.

SmileyClare · 27/04/2020 12:47

What do your friends and family think of your relationship with this man? It's worth considering that you're blinded by love and can't see him for what he is.
The whole dynamic is wrong. It all sounds like a toxic mess to be honest.

MadisonMontgomery · 27/04/2020 12:48

Oh God, I could not be bothered with all this drama over a few cigarettes - yes it’s bad for you, but seriously?!

pinkyredrose · 27/04/2020 12:52

You're staying with him during lockdown to fill his 'emotional void' HmmGrin

Did you actually want to stay with him?

DeliaOwens · 27/04/2020 12:54

Gosh OP. If you were my daughter I would tell you to walk away from this man child.
He has issues, he needs to fix them, and want to fix them. It matters not a hit how educated he is or what kind of a job he has. His actions do not allow for a harmonious environment.
Do you WANT this to be your life?

Honestly, there are men out there, just as educated, successful in their careers, happy in themselves and a joy to be around. You are settling for something that you wouldn't ever choose normally. Please leave this relationship.