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Boris 'it could have gone either way'

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Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 16:38

Well he's recorded a very passionate speech and looks very poorly indeed.
He shows a huge amount of gratitude towards the staff who have cared for him and he appeared quite shaken. Lips quivering towards the end I thought.
I really hope this is a turning point and our government will invest properly into an NHS that has been in its knees for a long time.
Maybe he will vote in favour of NHS staff pay increases next time.

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bettybattenburg · 12/04/2020 18:42

I hope that the hideous experience he has had will ensure that the NHS is properly funded and the staff properly paid going forward

Me too. It's a lovely dream, if only it would happen.

Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 18:43

Piglet

Oh! Haha! Just read the tweet! Is that what you mean?
Believe me, I still think his conduct has been beyond awful.
I'm just clinging to the fact that there may, just may be an ounce of decency buried deep down in there.

''Tis Easter Sunday after all... maybe he'll be born again! GrinWink

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Runnerduck34 · 12/04/2020 19:14

I hope he does have an epiphany and shows his gratitude by protecting and supporting the nhs by giving it much needed resources.
I am pleased he is recovering, it must have been scary but I cant help but wonder if every patient in icu with coronavirus has a nurse by their bedside 24/7, i have a feeling probably not, and his experience may not be typical.

Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 19:50

but I cant help but wonder if every patient in icu with coronavirus has a nurse by their bedside 24/7

Apparently not. I read that the usual 1:1 had gone out of the window.
1 nurse:2 patients was reported a few days ago. Probably more now.

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Rayagoldensun · 12/04/2020 20:01

Otherrooms it’s a bit quieter at the moment but in my friends ICU dept the ration of patients to nurses was 3:1. She said the stress to look after such very sick people was absolutely draining. The fear that they might have not done something and the making sure that patients were getting what was needed was something she has never expienced before.

I read that Johnson had one of the country’s top respiratory consultants in charge of his treatment. I’m very glad he’s home but with the best will in the world in one of the busiest hospitals, it’s not guaranteed that Joe Public will receive quite as attentive care right now.

Bdayupset · 12/04/2020 20:10

Cos no politician has ever been ill before 🙄

Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 20:11

Ray
That is awful and your friend must be exhausted.
It's no surprise that the PM got special treatment- just as if a member of the Royal family or any other 'notable' person might .
I hope he knows that this is the case. I hope he saw what was happening in there.
I hope this experience makes him realise what his party has done.

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Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 20:13

Cos no politician has ever been ill before 🙄

No living politician has lived through or been directly affected by a pandemic of this scale before. Hmm

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bettybattenburg · 12/04/2020 20:17

I hope this experience makes him realise what his party has done.

He knows what his party has done, the question is does he really care enough to do something constructive about it?

Booboostwo · 12/04/2020 20:23

He sounds genuine and speaks with conviction because he is mainly concentrating on himself. It's not really about NHS staff, it's about how NHS staff took care of him. He must have been very unwell, he must have been very vulnerable and he is shaken by how close he came to death, however, at the end it's all about him. Sadly I don't think it will make any difference to his political views on either the NHS or immigration.

PigletJohn · 12/04/2020 20:28

Regrettably it doesn't matter how good the model is if it is prevented from having the resources it needs

Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 20:42

He knows what his party has done, the question is does he really care enough to do something constructive about it?

In response to this question:
What Booboo just said .
Some people only care when they are personally affected by a situation .
He may never have personally experienced anything like this in his life.
His lack of empathy is well documented but if this 'brush with death' changes his policies even just a bit, I suppose it doesn't matter if it is 'all about him'...

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Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 20:45

What I'm saying is, he can have an motive he f'ing likes as long as he stArts prioritising the right things.

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PicsInRed · 12/04/2020 21:01

Also, why did he feel he had to put on a suit?!

Respect is shown by being dressed appropriately to the occasion. He's showing the viewer respect by wearing his usual attire.

Booboostwo · 12/04/2020 21:34

I would also be thrilled if he started to prioritize the right things regardless of his motives, but the problem with self-centered people is that as soon as the threat to their own well-being passes they have no motivation to do the right thing.

VegetableMunge · 12/04/2020 21:39

I'd like to hope he's learned a few vital lessons about his past (extensive) wrongs the very hard way, and that this awful experience will be a turning point for him. The other alternatives are too depressing to contemplate.

rjebgf · 12/04/2020 21:56

I do hope that it causes a massive expansion and funding of the NHS. Before covid, we still didn't have enough nurses, doctors or hospitals anyway.

That said, on his brexit bus, he did say he wanted to give the fictional 350 million per week to the NHS instead of giving it to the EU. So the NHS presumably was high up his list of priorities anyway?

Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 22:51

That said, on his brexit bus, he did say he wanted to give the fictional 350 million per week to the NHS instead of giving it to the EU. So the NHS presumably was high up his list of priorities anyway?

That was just deception good PR.
Turned out to be fictional bullshit like you say.
He tapped into Joe Public's priorities for his own gain.
Hopefully, he will look seriously at investing after all this.

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SomethingOnce · 12/04/2020 23:09

The Ghost of NHS Present and the Ghost of NHS Yet to Come...

Doryhunky · 12/04/2020 23:18

It looked to me like he was reading an autocue and that he had prepared his words.

TiredofLockdown · 12/04/2020 23:26

Don’t be daft - there isn’t such a thing as private A & E for one thing and he and his family would have to be extraordinarily lucky not to have had at least minor accidents.

Are you serious..? So if the PM had, say, broken his arm or something you think he'd have to go and sit in A&E and wait for 4 hours like everyone else... what about if the Queen fell ill? If there's no such thing as private A&E where does she go?

I sincerely doubt that Boris or any of his ilk have ever stayed overnight in an NHS hospital in their lives.

Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 23:38

something

Haha! Something like that!!! Grin

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Otherrooms · 12/04/2020 23:39

I sincerely doubt that Boris or any of his ilk have ever stayed overnight in an NHS hospital in their lives.

This!

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CormoranStrike · 12/04/2020 23:55

I don’t think he had double the care - i think he has named two nurses as he had one for each 12 hour shift, the same two repeating over several days, no?

HopeClearwater · 13/04/2020 00:24

I can’t see the problem with the comment by @Dogsaresomucheasier
I’ve spent a lot of time in a London hospital having major surgeries and I am simultaneously very grateful to the staff and yet concerned about their standard of living. I spent a lot of time talking to the staff who had long commutes out to places they could barely afford to live in. I’m fed up of the special MN rule there seems to be about not criticising BJ now that he’s had the CV.

I’m glad he’s better, I’m glad he’s made this speech, it does seem to be sincere and I hope his government’s future policies around the NHS reflect what he said about it.

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