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And today’s good news in case you missed it..cos I did and it’s official

57 replies

Dowser · 27/03/2020 14:23

Covid 19 has been officially downgraded

On March 19

www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

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MagentaRocks · 27/03/2020 14:49

Deaths are still rising though. 181 new ones. We are up to 759 now.

PristineCondition · 27/03/2020 14:51

I don't think anyone's told corvid though...
It's still going for it

Tableclothing · 27/03/2020 14:53

I read that the downgrade is to allow it to be treated in all hospitals, not just specialist centres. It doesn't mean it has become less contagious or less dangerous.

WhatAboutMeeee · 27/03/2020 14:53

I heard it was something to do with so they can treat at hospital and not in a specialist unit because of how contagious it is (something like that)

DobbyTheHouseElk · 27/03/2020 14:53

That must be good thing.....someone tell the virus.

Soontobe60 · 27/03/2020 14:54

Have you actually read the link you posted?

SurpriseSparDay · 27/03/2020 14:57

Slightly wish I hadn’t read that list of HCIDs ...

But yes, what PristineCondition said.

Soontobe60 · 27/03/2020 15:00

Quote from the link
*The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.*

The main issue is that mortality rates are low within the general population, as opposed to something like Ebola where the mortality rates are very high. The number of deaths that were due in their entirety to Covid where people hvpave nonunderlying health issues is extremely low.
It's still a pandemic though.

GrumpyHoonMain · 27/03/2020 15:03

This is quite right. It’s nowhere near as deadly as Ebola or SARS / MERS. It’s still infectious though.

alexdgr8 · 27/03/2020 15:05

i think there is some misunderstanding here.
or is this meant to be humourous.
it is a techinical definition to permit wider use of limited resources.
it is all hands to the pumps now.
and we all need to support them, and comply with the rules.

Knocksomesense · 27/03/2020 15:06

I think what I'm failing to understand is why has the whole world locked down if it's downgraded

lubeybooby · 27/03/2020 15:10

not remotely good news and nothing to do with the general public, changes nothing and everything is still just as serious

Sunshinestars · 27/03/2020 15:17

The word "downgrade" is relative and/or subjective. I'm not sure of the benefits of sharing information which some would regard as reason to relax their efforts during the actual crisis point we find ourselves in.

scarbados · 27/03/2020 15:21

I'm sure the 'good news' is greatly reassuring to the people in intensive care right now and to the relatives of those who've already died.
Hmm

Ginfordinner · 27/03/2020 15:24

The UK is second in the world table now for the increase in daily deaths Sad

On the TV news this morning a health care professional was saying that they are using entire hospitals to treat this awful virus, not just specialist units

Thinkingabout1t · 27/03/2020 15:30

Double-plus good, Dowser! And has the chocolate ration been increased too?

In times like these, George Orwell talks a lot of sense ....

fiddlethefiddles · 27/03/2020 15:39

If it is less deadly than sars then why are we having all this lockdown etc now and not then ? 🤷‍♀️

Ciwirocks · 27/03/2020 15:41

Yet when you read the ‘definition of a HCID’ in that link it sounds exactly like COVID! Hope this isn’t so they can downgrade PPE for healthcare staff

Ciwirocks · 27/03/2020 15:42

Fiddle it’s way more contagious than SARS

thatgingergirl · 27/03/2020 15:42

Ginfordinner - but Italy, France and USA (total for all states) haven't notified their figures yet. And in deaths per 1m of population the UK is 8th. (I take comfort where I can find it).

Lunawuna · 27/03/2020 15:47

Monkeypox?!

Sapphiresunrise · 27/03/2020 15:47

I think (hope) that it's nearing the peak now, over the next week or so..

c75kp0r · 27/03/2020 15:48

The words that make up this statement have an ordinary English meaning that we understand. However it is likely that they also have a specialist context-specific meaning that most of us don't understand.

I certainly wouldn't assume this was good news or that it was bad news as I don't have an understanding of the inner workings of the NHS and Dept of Health

GoldenOmber · 27/03/2020 15:48

It is less deadly than SARS and MERS in that if you get it, you’re more likely to be okay than you would if you got SARS or MERS. But it’s killing more people than either of them because if spreads fast and lots of people don’t have severe symptoms. SARS and MERS were more likely to put people in the hospital early on - this one can happily spread itself around via people who think they’ve just got a bit of a bug but it’s nothing serious.

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