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And today’s good news in case you missed it..cos I did and it’s official

57 replies

Dowser · 27/03/2020 14:23

Covid 19 has been officially downgraded

On March 19

www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

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Allaboardthemagicbus2020 · 27/03/2020 16:10

Not today's news OP, happened week or so ago

Leflic · 27/03/2020 16:22

I think it was pretty obvious actually.
It was pointed out by many on MN that it appeared less dangerous and what was special about it.
Obviously the lack of care for those that get serious symptoms are the concern right now.I guess wide scale action was bound to happen with one of the new virus’s.

Trews2019 · 27/03/2020 16:25

Sorry but I don’t think this thread is helpful. It encourages people to take their eye off the ball and stop taking essential measures.

SurpriseSparDay · 27/03/2020 16:25

Sky says a temporary mortuary is being opened at Birmingham Airport. This is not good news ...

Idontmattertoher · 27/03/2020 16:31

The UK is second in the world table now for the increase in daily deaths

I thought that also, but then realised Italy is not listed. We are 3rd, which is still very bad. However, we need to remember that the US figures are updated hours later than European figures.

As for the downgraded issues; I am genuinely shocked at how many people here are unable to understand what is downgraded and why. Comprehension skills on MN are shockingly bad.

And today’s good news in case you missed it..cos I did and it’s official
AmelieTaylor · 27/03/2020 16:34

This is NOT ‘Good News’. Not by a long shot!

This is ‘oh fuck we need to change this quickly as we haven’t been using only specialist facilities and we are about to be flooded with people in all of our hospitals!!

This thread should be closed. We do not need people deciding to have friends around for the weekend in the strength that it’s already being downgraded!!!!

Dowser · 27/03/2020 16:36

I’m thinking of reporting my post
ABout an hour after I posted someone told me the government web site had been updated and they had changed it to high.

So sorry about that everyone. While I wasn’t suggesting that we all shook hands with the neighbours and held street parties I did think it might quell the panic a little.

So, might be a good idea to check government web site a couple of times a day just to see where we are with it.

Can’t trust in anything at the moment it would appear

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fiddlethefiddles · 27/03/2020 16:40

Is this thread (started in good nature I'm sure) going to be deleted then?

maslinpan · 27/03/2020 16:41

If we need the panic to get people to take this seriously, then perhaps we should let the panic spread, it's irresponsible to post up inaccurate "good news" stories which you have not fully understood.

alloutoffucks · 27/03/2020 16:44

Yes this is not like an infectious ebola where nearly everyone who catches it will die. That is true. So no, one third of the population will not die within 6 months as happened with the Black Death.
When this very first started no one had any idea the proportion of people who caught it who would die. As WHO examined evidence it became clear that it was not going to lead to incredibly high mortality rates of those who caught it.

BUT the mortality rate is still anywhere from 1-7% of those who catch it depending on the health of the population and the medical systems in place. 1% is the general estimate for the UK. That is still a lot of people.
So no it is not the black plague. If I had thought it was then I would have stockpiled months of food and bolted my door with my family inside, to the outside world until this was all over. But it is serious.

Various governments in their statements minimise this virus with Trump being classic for this. But don't listen to what they are saying, but what they are doing. Every government is taking drastic measures. That tells you that they know this is serious.

alloutoffucks · 27/03/2020 16:47

As a general rule, look at what people do, not what they say.

TomPettysTopHat · 27/03/2020 17:02

I work for the NHS. We are expecting the peak at around Easter based on current data.

XingMing · 27/03/2020 17:05

www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

This is worth reading if you can cope with a lot of stats. And slightly reassuring. The author is a professor of pathology and a senior pathologist.

fiddlethefiddles · 27/03/2020 17:12

@Tompettystophat how well do you think the NHS will cope?

jarjarjam · 27/03/2020 17:14

Such good news that it was announced on 19 March...before lockdown. So it’s obviously not the case that this reclassification is a positive sign. In terms of technical classification yes it’s not high mortality overall in but the effect will be more many many more deaths than without it and extreme, devastating pressure on the NHS, with resultant non Covid effect on other areas of healthcare such as cancellation of life extending cancer treatment and transplants (this is confirmed as despite initial statements to the contrary, it’s either not safe due to infection risk or resources are too stretched) and also causes social, mental health and economic disaster with jobs lost, care and protection services stretched/suspended, people left hungry, support networks cut off etc etc. Not as deadly as Ebola isn’t exactly most people’s idea of good news...

Tonyaster · 27/03/2020 17:15

The peak was originally supposed to be this weekend. Now it's two weeks away again.

alloutoffucks · 27/03/2020 17:16

@XingMing That article is pretty unremarkable. It basically says that because we are not testing outside of hospitals we have no idea of the infection rate or mortality rate in the UK and so are relying on China's mortality rate to guess number of infected. That is true. We may have a lower mortality rate. But we may not. Our mortallity rate may be higher. Without testing no one knows.

Also some people will die of this virus who would have died soon anyway. No one has denied that. Someone who is in the terminal illness NHS pathway could die of a cold. I know from my own relatives who have been on this pathway that saying what actually killed them is not always easy. With someone very elderly and close to death they can have multiple health problems. Some cancer, heart failure, lung failure, and the catch flu. What actually ends up killing them is often hard to say and in a way does not matter.

But we know from the people who have featured in the media that very many people do not meet this picture. Yes they may have illnesses that make their immune system weaker like diabetes, but they are not about to die any time soon.

Bringringbring12 · 27/03/2020 17:21

A good positive sign

That many mumsnetters will poor scorn over be used of course... they know better than the four nations public health group

TomPettysTopHat · 27/03/2020 17:23

@fiddlethefiddles it's going to be very difficult. My own hospital is trying to quadruple the number of ITU beds and lots of staff arr are likely to be redeployed in order to help us cope.

BeetrootRocks · 27/03/2020 17:27

Agree with those who say it's not good news.

I also think this thread should go tbh and I'm not usually the sort of person who says that.

Leflic · 27/03/2020 17:44

Why should it go? It’s quoting an official government site. Which may have been changed.

No one is advocating going against government advice.

We are not some Eastern bloc country.
Open and transparent with the freedom to discuss information.

Tonyaster · 27/03/2020 17:45

Of course it shouldnt go!

Just because the mumsnet doom brigade can't bear any positive news at all.

Bringringbring12 · 27/03/2020 18:01

* Why should it go? *

Because it doesn’t fit with the drama and histrionics surrounding covid-19 that some mumsnetters have been indulging in

BeetrootRocks · 27/03/2020 18:31

No, because people like the op don't seem to understand what it means.

AnyFucker · 27/03/2020 18:40

Any "downgrading" simply means that sufferers can be treated in a general hispital setting rather than a specialist infectious diseases unit

Which is kinda convenient because as numbers rise we ran out of "specialist infectious diseases" beds about 2 weeks ago

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