So what will be the long term effects?

[coldwarenigma]

Out on my 1 daily walk with Ddog I was thinking dangerous I Know! What will be the long term repercussions from all that is happening?
Some thoughts went through my head:

disclaimer:- this is fantasy/dogwalk musings, no research, sources etc.

• Employers will be judged on their reactions to the crisis. Many companies will go under.

-zero hours will be banned -Childcare will be viewed differently. -The mantra on here is 'its not childcare' but clearly for some when push comes to shove it is exactly that. There will be a reversal in reliance on outsourcing of care.

• Every day counts in education, attendance is everything. This has now been debunked. Education can be through other means and forms. A change in how education is delivered may develop. eg online will be used in conjunction with attendance.
• Housing - gardens big enough to grow food will become popular again. Mortgages- the need for 2 wages- people will become more wary now incomes have been shown to be very precarious.
• self employment - again shown to be precarious- there will be demands for protections. I did also wonder how many will be shot in foot by not declaring all income but just a minimum if it comes to government compensating wages.

Has anyone else had similar thoughts or do I need to buy earphones, to distract me, from thinking when dog walking?

Oh and the quiet a&e will be flooded with ppl again

@cyclingmad (me too by the way!! ) agreed - people will return to visiting a & e or the doctor with the most minor of ailments that a little bit of time and common sense could have easily dealt with.

blobby10 aa its too cold for me to ride outside right now, I've got a smart turbo trainer and zwifiting now. I think that my game changer for me in that in winter where I avoided going out cycling I'll now cycle indoors

Things will change initially, but not for long. People will just revert to how they were pre Covid19, making up for holidays lost, birthdays missed and lots of Post Covid19 parties. We have all got used to freedom and will be in a hurry to get back to that.

I'd hope that it would give people a bit more empathy to how easy it could be to hit rock bottom.

More empathy for people in countries whose currency becomes worthless. Or those facing war/natural disasters/living with deadly diseases.

The attitude of many across the boards on here is that you've failed if you end up in a Minimum wage job/retail and shouldn't be having children if you need to be propped up by benefits. I hope that a bit more critical thinking is applied to that.

The anti vaxers on my FB are still sticking to their stance. But at least some of the others doubting climate change are getting it.

There seems to be more support for stopping some of the brutal markets/farms around Asia. Because they now consider it our business.

There could be a lot of residual health effects stemming from the virus. Some of us may have lung damage and not know for years.

I'm wondering if there's going to be any really interesting statistical stuff that comes out of this that causes people to change their behaviour.
For example, more or less deaths to people who are vegetarian or vegan, over or underweight, smoker v non smoker rates.. Rates of infection in areas with high pollution levels v low pollution. Random stats that show you are less likely to have had CV-19 if you are twenty seven, eat meat once a week, are three pounds off your ideal weight for height, own a dog and run five or more miles a week.

Once the doors to Wetherspoons are open again and flights to Ibiza and Magaluf are running-I expect many will revert to type and carry on as before.

I think there will be more home schoolers - some may realise they really enjoy it ( and the child does) and carry it on.

People will appreciate the smaller things.

I fear mental health will take a huge battering and will take a long time to fix

Joe Wicks will get a knighthood. They’ll be a big baby boom at the end of 2020 / beginning of 2021. Exam boards (including SATs) will have to adjust their expectations for students sitting exams in 2021, to accommodate the fact that they will have missed half a year of school. On a national level that’s probably about it.

Personally; I’ll be better at meal planning. Like a pp, I hope my children will be less fussy eaters (they’re already learning to live with left over lunch sandwiches served as an afternoon snack). After too many years as a reluctant SAHM I’m thinking more seriously about retraining when this is all over for proper, useful career.

I have to add that I can’t believe people are complaining about children playing in garden instead of being inside doing schoolwork. Miserable bastards!

will be viewed differently. -The mantra on here is 'its not childcare' but clearly for some when push comes to shove it is exactly that

Umm, what? I can’t see how you come to that conclusion. Most I’ve seen on SM who are having to educate their children are struggling to do it. If this teaches us anything it is that school in NOT simply childcare.

Every day counts in education, attendance is everything. This has now been debunked. Education can be through other means and forms. A change in how education is delivered may develop. eg online will be used in conjunction with attendance

This can only be ascertained when we see how it has impacted on children’s attainment levels. Assuming the model can change disregards the fact there are a sizeable number of children out there who are not being educated at all at the moment. On DD’s group teams, there are maybe ten children out of 28 who are using the online learning on offer. There are three in her class who are at school. The children who aren’t online are generally the ones from poorer backgrounds and either don’t have access to computers, or don’t have parents who are engaged in their education, or are too busy trying to keep a roof over their heads. A couple of them have been on the WhatsApp groups gloating they have been playing x-box all day. Children need to go to school or the attainment gap will only get bigger.

I agree that working in an office has its perks. However, once companies realise the money to be saved by not renting huge offices, many of us will have to work at home all the time.

I hope people will put some thought into having a kid and what it will have to endure on this dying planet in future decades. A birth boom in 9 months will be depressing as fuck if it happens.
-Divorce rates will rocket later this year,
-People will flock to busy areas as soon as possible, causing the death toll to increase again, and repeat.
-Millions of people will be looking for a new job
-maybe the people who actually keep society running will be paid more than the bare legal minimum and pointless CEO types will be made to contribute their cash horde to society. As if, with tory filth in power, sadly.

-people will remember the video of tories in parliament standing clapping when the pay voted to not give nurses a tiny pay rise in 2017, and will vote them out.

Apologies, this post is not entirely relevant to the OP...

I don’t understand the swipes at ‘anti-vaxxers’ that creep into corona threads, this one included. Human vaccine trials are currently proceeding in the US without the usual preliminary animal safety testing. Professor Paul Offit, who developed the rotavirus vaccine which has saved thousands of lives in the developing world, has himself expressed grave doubts about the wisdom of suspending normal safety precautions in the development of a Covid-19 vaccine. He isn’t an antivaxxer, he is a vociferous vaccine proponent and astute scientist, who recognises that if this vaccine is rushed to market and goes on to cause serious harm, then parents may lose faith in the entire vaccine schedule. After the recent dengue vaccine tragedy in the Philippines, where the new vaccine caused a fatal immune response in some children, general vaccine rates plummeted and when there was a subsequent outbreak of measles, hundreds more children died.

Why is Covid-19 a pro vs anti vax issue?

A rushed vaccine for Covid-19 is not something anyone should be praying for.

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-insight/as-pressure-for-coronavirus-vaccine-mounts-scientists-debate-risks-of-accelerated-testing-idUSKBN20Y1GZ?fbclid=IwAR0IL3ENVCalMsdrSLxmh7rdIQSanH0wjvoZaX6fsJqt7ykgAbS3vN-CqjE

More food in people's houses - store cupboards etc.

We started a store last year for Brexit. We were in area where beast from east meant shops were affected - though only Tesco was out of kilter for weeks afterwards so were worried about supply chains more than most.

We found it useful at pinch points for money that occured at certian points in the year. We used up most of it in January - and were thinking of restocking over year but what we had and little we'd got to go towards that last shop has been very useful now.

Once it’s over

Football matches will sell out
Pubs will be rammed

Hotels will be fully booked for weeks

Then everyone will revert back to normal lives...just paying higher tax

Nothing will change as such