So what will be the long term effects?

[coldwarenigma]

Out on my 1 daily walk with Ddog I was thinking dangerous I Know! What will be the long term repercussions from all that is happening?
Some thoughts went through my head:

disclaimer:- this is fantasy/dogwalk musings, no research, sources etc.

• Employers will be judged on their reactions to the crisis. Many companies will go under.

-zero hours will be banned -Childcare will be viewed differently. -The mantra on here is 'its not childcare' but clearly for some when push comes to shove it is exactly that. There will be a reversal in reliance on outsourcing of care.

• Every day counts in education, attendance is everything. This has now been debunked. Education can be through other means and forms. A change in how education is delivered may develop. eg online will be used in conjunction with attendance.
• Housing - gardens big enough to grow food will become popular again. Mortgages- the need for 2 wages- people will become more wary now incomes have been shown to be very precarious.
• self employment - again shown to be precarious- there will be demands for protections. I did also wonder how many will be shot in foot by not declaring all income but just a minimum if it comes to government compensating wages.

Has anyone else had similar thoughts or do I need to buy earphones, to distract me, from thinking when dog walking?

Overseas travel will become less socially acceptable. Quite a few people won't be able to afford a foreign holiday for a while.

A good 1/3rd of my class have done nothing I gave set for them. Nothing

Some of them may be sick or have a parent who is sick. Some may not have access to the internet or a laptop/computer to complete the work. Some of them may be left to their own devices by a parent/parents working from home and prioritising getting paid in order to keep afloat over completing homework. Some may be struggling to sit down and focus on school work because they're not in the right place emotionally and mentally, I know my DC have needed the day off from school work today as it's suddenly hit them that we can't simply go out somewhere and their friends can't come call for them so we've had lots of tears, lots of big emotions, and they've needed time to let it sink in.

More people will become vegetarian or vegan (I hope)

I pray that Brexit will be dumped!

I pointed out the 1/3 not accessing the work as an illustration that setting remote work is not the way forward for any or all of your reasons to respond to the PP who predicted that school attendance will be seen as less important..

I hope that my children will be more in the habit of just eating what they're given. We've been eking out the food we had (had some delivered today) and I lost count of the number of times I said that they just had to eat what they were given.

Difficult to see beyond the huge economic fallout everything else is secondary. Its easter soon hotels, pubs and holiday resorts will get hammered financially.

Re the third of class not doing anything.

When you have school aged children and preschool / babies and parents WFH it's a complete nightmare.
I haven't had a full nights sleep in nights, DH is trying to work in daytime, I'm trying to school the eldest, entertain the little one and then do my work in the evening's. I am absolutely knackered. Today we had a much needed chilled out day!

I wonder if we’re going to see an increase in people with agoraphobia?

Over the next few months, people won't catch colds. Lets also hope that childhood illnesses like chickenpox stop for a while too.

I pointed out the 1/3 not accessing the work as an illustration that setting remote work is not the way forward for any or all of your reasons to respond to the PP who predicted that school attendance will be seen as less important.

I agree with you. I feel bad for the children missing school. It's not just academicts they're missing out on, its the social skills, learning to navigate the world, communicating with people other than their immediate family, the opportunities and facilities that you can't provide at home during a lockdown. I feel bad for the parents too who have been suddenly thrust into a teaching role without the foggiest about where to begin or how to proceed, it would be like my DC's teachers being shoved into DH's job - they would know the concept of what needs to be done but not how to properly achieve it.

There is a lot of competitive homeschooling on my FB feed with colour coded charts, spare rooms overhauled into classrooms, structured timetables, and elaborate lesson plans alongside a lot of moaning on the residents groups about kids playing in gardens when they should be inside learning because it's still a school day.

There are so many overwhelmed people right now who are struggling to be All Of The Things and feeling like they're failing to do any of those things well. I can see it being quite damaged to some of those people.

*damaging

I will never use Sports Direct, Wetherspoons and the like again, based on their appalling attitudes during the crisis.

Hopefully the footage of dolphins in Venice etc will make people truly see the damage we are causing to our planet.

People will have a better store cupboard and will hopefully waste less food in the future.

I also see a lot of my personal relationships, friends, neighbours etc will change as a result of the way people behaved in the crisis.

I will shop more at local, independent butchers, greengrocers and the like.

As long as Wetherspoons has the cheapest beer and pub food in town, they're going nowhere.

Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I expect in 2012 a return of the dogma of austerity. The NHS may be exempted but other services will see savage cuts in order to "repay the bill" from the Covid-19 measures.

Restrictions and police powers will also be slow to be given up, if indeed they're given up at all.

I'd say there's a decent chance of the economy not really recovering. To be honest ever since 2008 I've felt that the economy has been desperately propped up by cheap and easy borrowing, but there's nowhere lower for interest rates to go.

I can also imagine a world of high inflation but stubbornly low interest rates. The government is pumping money into the economy at a time demand is down for other reasons. That's a perfect recipe for inflation.

2021 I meant.

I'm not persuaded much is going to change. Look at 2008, the banking system is much the same, personal credit has again risen sharply. People have short memories. I'd be happy to be wrong, for it to be a turning point like the end of WW2 was from Churchill to Attlee. There are too many vested interests, and the Conservative have too strong a hold on Parliament for much to change, certainly in the immediate aftermath, other than change necessitated by the crisis.

I've read that the dolphins in Venice was in fact a hoax, they were filmed miles away and not in Venice

There are too many vested interests, totally agree!

But sadly not just Tory mps either. We need massive political change.

Working from home will be the new normal.

I hope that eventually people will become adverse to credit and borrowing for non-essentials like fancy/new cars and holidays. I've seen a lot of posts on fb asking for advice about credit card bills, and car finance payments.

I've always been a saver-upper - I'd much rather save up for something than have it right now and pay it off forever. This also means that in hard times I can borrow from my own savings pot to tide us over rather be stressing about how to pay regular bills, nevermind loans/finance/credit card bills.

I suspect the travel/leisure industry will change hugely.

I think people will be wary of booking and paying for holidays years in advance. Instead they will book their annual leave and wait till close to the time AND THEN book a holiday to somewhere they know is safe/they aren't going to get stuck.

My hopes: that people will realise they don't NEED to fly away for holiday at every half term and summer holiday, or 'for business' so much leading to a massive drop in the number of aeroplanes in the sky and more of these lovely blue skies not dulled by vapour trails. That folk realise they don't NEED to drive to the shops half a mile away two or three times a day. That young people realise that they don't NEED to buy cheap fashion every week. That people continue to support the local butchers, greengrocers, market traders etc who have bent over backwards during this crises to support their communities and don't just revert back to supermarket shopping for its convenience.

What I suspect will happen: None of the above. Plus a huge number of small businesses will fold across all sectors - including dental practices and physiotherapists etc. Massive increase in suicide from self employed people who simply can't weather this situation and will end up bankrupt. And a return to austerity for many years to come as we all pay back through taxes the loans used for the current promises.

What I suspect will happen: None of the above

Absolutely-I think most people (probably the more well off) will carry on as normal after this-flying, holidays etc.

Others will get massively in debt, have homes repossessed and years of austerity measures. Mental health problems will be massive.

Higher taxes

As soon as travelling abroad ok there will be influx of people going to make up for not being able to, there will be a peak of it and then it will return to normal.

The quietness we find now it will be like a switch, lots more people on the road etc.

All the clean air we experience now will be reversed within days

There will a long line at my local tip as soon as it reopens