This made me smile today (race/ethnicity)

[ArriettyJones]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51611514

Little spot of good news

I know in the end it’s a commercial decision but good for Tesco nevertheless.

(I did look and couldn’t see another thread in this. Apologies if I missed one.)

I broke my wrist in Myanmar last year. All the bandages, tape, clips etc used at the hospital where I had it set were brown - of course. But as a white person I had never thought about medical supplies being skin colour-specific before. Opened my eyes so I'm glad Tesco are doing this.

This thread is so depressing. God forbid there be a tiny positive for BAME people for it to be ruined by those who have never had to give it a second thought. As a black woman MN is depressing. Just when you think you can just be part of a group of women, sharing experiences of relationships, family life, work life and health issues. You're are suddenly pushed out, further removed and made to feel different.

This thread is awful. It won't affect me personally but I can totally see how this is a huge thing.

I hope schools buy these plasters so that children can be given a choice of which plaster they want to wear.

Some of the posters on here should hang their heads in shame. They won't because they live in their bubble where they believe their own experience is the same as everyone else.

Just when you think you can just be part of a group of women, sharing experiences of relationships, family life, work life and health issues. You're are suddenly pushed out, further removed and made to feel different.

MN is fine if you are married, white and have 2.4 children. The rest of us have to put up with it or shut up. I don't fit the MN norm and don't experience those sharing experiences that often except on a few niche threads concerning very specific experiences which are threads I would much prefer not to have a reason to go to (which is the one thing all of us on the thread have in common }

Forgive me for showing my ignorance - I am not a person of colour - but why is this required or welcomed?

Because skin comes in a variety of colours so 'skin colour' anything should reflect that, make up, tights, prosthetic limbs, hearing aids ...

The fact that it doesn't reflects the position of 'white' in society.

I went with my mum for her first prosthetic breast fitting, all the plastic boobs were 'white' skin tone.

I asked the nurse doing the fitting if there were other colours available, apparently they could be ordered, but many women didn't want them.

I was sceptical, I think maybe the women didn't want to return for a second fitting of something ordered in. But it was my mum's fitting so didn't take it further.

I am a black woman and have recently avoided reading threads on Mumsnet about race, diversity and racism. The threads about MM have been terrible, although a few have tried to point out the racism aimed at her and the double standard that "Be Kind" doesn't extend to her. Reading these threads reminds me of the experiences I've witnessed of women diligently fighting for the rights of women...appealing to men, (usually white men) to understand the position of women in today's society. Being a woman isnt easy in any part of the world. Black women and women of colour are sharing their experiences and being shut down for being glad about having a choice just like you.

This is a good thing and it cannot be denied. Furthermore the plasters will not match all darker skin tones either but at least I and my DC have a choice.

If someone didn't realise that plasters were supposed to be "flesh coloured", surely seeing the link in the OP they would suddenly understand? Like, logically, why else would darker plasters be in the news? I don't see news announcements when they release new paw patrol plasters or a new shade of green. So how can adults possibly not make that connection?? Of course it's welcomes and wanted!
I'm also amazed that people with such ignorance came on this thread to tell everyone that they never realised and then complain that plasters don't come in their specific shade of white?

So to these people, do you think that manufacturers should have made a full range of Caucasian plasters so you could match your skin tone perfectly before they made darker ones? Or are you now going to demand that they broaden the range of "white" plasters?

@Biancadelrioisback it’s baffling isn’t it? People will seemingly make up anything to cover up why they’re so ignorant or racist.

Didn’t know plasters were flesh coloured for fucks sake. Unless they’re visually impaired that isn’t anything someone should be admitting.

Foundmykey I avoid them too, I clicked on this one because it was positive only for it to be ruined by ignorant people.

I remember noticing pale plasters on people with dark skin and thinking that it must be annoying not to be able to wear one that is discreet.
So well done Tesco I say! A little thing that clearly means a lot to some POC.

I said the range of colours of plasters is a good thing, I just refuse to be told I'm somehow going along with ingrained racism by pointing out that nude is an official colour.

And the woman in John Lewis was doing the same, calling something by an official colour, one most of us don't use at all but is a particular shade.

Incidentally if you go to buy watercolour or acrylic paints, the things you might use to pain a portrait, you will not find a 'nide'.

Also if you search "is nude a colour" you get so many articles questioning whether it's appropriate in a diverse world and the first definition specifically references the fact it's based on Caucasian skin colour.

It doesn't take a genius to deduce that this is a colour name we need to take a step back from in a world where, I hope, tolerance and acceptance is growing. There are lots of things we don't do and words we don't use any more it won't be hard for you to add this to your list.

I like this @PatricksRum "If I go to my corner shop, what colour tights will they have? Not mine, that's for sure. The same way they wouldn't sell a piano. Convenience store, they call it. Not convenient for me"

I'll list a few more things that privilege allows for people to become desensitised to:

Jesus is always white in images (long blond hair, aquiline nose, chiseled jaw)

Mary is always white (see above)

Father Christmas is white (and fat and has a beard)

Schwarzer Peter (Black Peter in Europe, the antithesis to st Nick or Father Christmas) is small, meagre, scrawny, black and has a mean face

All damsels in distress in cartoons are white and blond with curly "angelic" haloed hair

All women sing at first soprano levels

All women have small, narrow, petite feet (size 5 and smaller)

If you google any main professions most will be men and white. If not, they are white. (Algorithm fact as most search algorithms are written by ..... those in Silicon Valley who are most likely to be white men)

If you have a stereotypically simple name (could be biblical like Mary), it is assumed that you are...... and you spend the rest of your life justifying your right to using the said name.

Many non white scientists have been disallowed a Wikipedia entry. As those who 'peer' review entries are.....: correct!

Thank God for Mary Kay and the one with the bright pink packaging that eludes my memory right now, as they always offered foundations and concealers to women of colour. How often have women of colour written about the lack of makeup skin colour ranges for companies to bemoan for ages that ' the pigments do not blend well during the mixing process'? Only for strobing and contouring etc to become fashionable thanks to that famous coastal family from the US, and all of a sudden, whoa, all the shops offer darker ranges in combos with fair skin ranges to get that £ or $.

I think that privileged people are not aware that they have accessibility to such items regardless of where they are in the world. Programs, make up, systems, literature etc are set up to favour strongly certain demographics.

I have said it before and will say it again, watching TV in Kenya and although many programs were local and thus reflected the local population, the adverts were still European. I can remember feeling confused as to why the adverts were such a stark contrast to the programs and the place I was visiting.

@TeaAddict235 I’m really annoyed that you had to explain this to the privileged white idiots of mn, but thank you for doing so.

When someone says something about not even realising a plaster is ‘flesh’ coloured, this is also what they probably don’t realise either.

I have never seen a blond Jesus!

This thread is getting ridiculous now.

Well, you will have seen fair-skinned, Anglo-Saxon-looking Jesuses, @Nduja, not the brown-skinned, dark-haired Middle Eastern-looking man he’s likely to have been.

@Nduja what's ridiculous about it? Please do share, I'm absolutely intrigued.

images.app.goo.gl/9i41GwsgNBVF4Kaq9

images.app.goo.gl/NSUBsKrPLAjKnjbe9

images.app.goo.gl/45aTJK2RZEcHqD4q9

images.app.goo.gl/Ds8jXtDn9xeSBczS6

images.app.goo.gl/frTfQeHtvA5QAUgs7

Not all blonde but mostly pretty pale skinned and all very European looking. They'd have stood out like a sore thumb in the Middle East of 2000 years ago.

I would say this dude is pretty blonde (one of the related images from your links @1066vegan) but you see @nduja has never seen a blonde Jesus so I must be hallucinating as clearly their experience trumps all!

I'm white and am getting increasingly irritated by the arrogance and complacency of some of the posts on this thread. I feel for those BAME posters who have to put up with this sort of rubbish IRL.

I have never seen a blond Jesus really?? 🙄

Every church I have been to has one...

And no, perhaps we have different understandings of blond. I have seen Jesus with brown hair, yes. Not blind.

Blond!