Passport office won’t issue my passport,help pls

[Christmaspug]

I’ve never really used my first name ,always used my middle name ,.on my wedding certificate the registrar put my middle name first as that’s what everyone calls me.
Passport office want proof of a name change from first name to middle name

Obviously I’ve not got that ,lots of people use their second name when they don’t like their first name,why would I change it officially as they are both my name.
I’m about to loose my £80 fee ,as this has been has been going backwards and forwards for some time ,
I’ve simply not got the proof they want ,
What on Earth can I do
I’m 46 always lived in uk and never had a passport before

To suggest she's committing fraud and will get in trouble is simply scaremongering.

Not necessarily. Knowingly giving false information to a registrar is illegal and is a criminal offence.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/getting-married/#h-marriages-which-are-not-valid

This is a very simple issue about a chain of legal documents that should prove your identity. Your problem as many PP have stated is your marriage certificate. Because it doesn’t show a legal chain of identity ie that Mary Jane Smith married Mr Brown and is therefore able to use either the name Mary Jane Smith or Mary Jane Brown. ONLY those two names, not any other combination. As your marriage certificate is wrong, you can’t show that the person on the birth certificate you are producing - Mary Jane Smith - is the same person as on the marriage certificate (because it says Jane Mary Brown and not as it should say Mary Jane Brown). You are going to have terrible trouble with banks, wills, anything that requires proof of ID. When I practised as a lawyer, I would not have accepted as proof of ID a passport in one name and a marriage cert in a different name, without a deed poll showing the legal change of name from one to the other.
I would go and get proper legal advice to make sure that the retrospective deed poll is properly worded to cover all the problems you may encounter in the future. I don’t mean at all to be unkind l, but I think the way that you have tried to explain things here would not make a clear and acceptable account for a legal document.

The marriage certificate should have a "previously known as" on it with the original name

But she doesn't have a "previously known as" name because she never changed her name. She just decided to go by her middle name - which is fine, but it doesn't mean she can write it on legal documents!

It’s not complicated. This passport application needs to be abandoned. You need to get your marriage certificate changed (it was sheer bloody madness to give the registrar the wrong name, and totally incompetent of them not to check). When you get your new corrected marriage certificate you can put in a new application for your passport.

bringringbring loved the ‘god willing’. That really made me laugh (not much else has in this thread !).

Op, you will need to change your name by deed poll. If you've been using the wrong name on everything, from your mortgage, to bank accounts,to marriage certificate, (and I've no idea how you managed this) then there is no way for you to prove you're that person if your birth certificate says you're not. In the event of your demise it would be a nightmare.

The only way round it is to legally change your name.

I think either get marriage certificate changed to reflect your birth name. In which case passport will have your birth name.

OR get your name changed by deed poll then reapply.

It's not that complicated.

"Is your marriage certificate valid if it's in the wrong name?"

I wondered that.

If it doesn't connect to Op's birth certificate, then is Op married?

It's very easy to get a free & immediate deed poll change although many companies will charge.

freedeedpoll.org.uk

Get the certificate printed on more quality paper if you want it to look good.

Then you just need to notify all the appropriate authorities using a copy of your legal name change. No need to contact a solicitor.

I did exactly the same as I use a derivative of my middle name & I decided just to remove my first name altogether. (though for now it's still on my passport as it doesn't expire for a number of years & I just book flights in my original name.)

OP doesn't WANT to change her marriage cert. She thinks her marriage cert is right, even though it is wrong.

Would a deedpoll with a namechange be back dated though?

If not, Op surely needs to get her documents back & start again?

Also, if not backdated, then her marriage certificate is still wrong?

I don't know what a deed poll is but if you go to a solicitor you can get them to witness a statutory declaration that you sign saying 'I Mary Jane Smith choose to renounce the name and hereby be known as Jane Jones from x date'. Then you can get copies made and send to passport office to get the name you use on your passport, and you can change everything else official to that name too.

Do a deed poll taking effect from your wedding date. That way the wedding certificate will be in correct name and you'll have solid proof of name change for your passport.

Do a deed poll taking effect from your wedding date. That way the wedding certificate will be in correct name and you'll have solid proof of name change for your passport.

But she applied for her marriage license in the wrong name to begin with, so this wouldn't work.

I have always used my middle name. BUT, All my official documents follow the format of 1st, middle and surname as on my birth certificate. Recently I have had to change my name on my bank accounts because in the last 5 years or so this has become a big issue relating to money laundering. It used to be the case that you could put any combination of your given names on bank accounts, but not any more.
As pp have said, your problem is your marriage certificate, which was completed incorrectly. You can't do anything else until you get that fixed. You will need to contact your local registrar and arrange to take your BC and MC in person.
You might as well match everything else up while you are at it. Or go down the deed poll route and make sure everything matches that. What you can't have is a mixture.
It becomes more interesting when you need everything in 2 languages that don't even share an alphabet.

Does that really matter as long as she has everything in the correct name going foward? It will also mean any issues with bank accounts etc will be put beyond doubt.

Only if the OP provided the registrar with her previous name, which I'm assuming she didn't as the registrar would have then asked for official proof of the name change and OP wouldn't have been able to provide it.

I changed my surname at 18 from my DF's name to my mums maiden name and had to do all of the above.

It sounds like OP has just provided her middle name in place of her true given first name to the registrar, her mortgage company and all sorts of other organisations and not had a problem. Until now, when the passport office have quite rightly questioned it

It also depends when she got married

All my ID apart from my birth certificate was in my middle name-surname rather than full name

The registrar, on seeing all of the documents in birth cert, gave me the option of full name or middle name-surname with full name as "also known as"

Things were much less strict until recently. Even now people often think they should be allowed to change their child's surname at school/doctors on just their say so...

It's completely understandable that they've tightened up, but there's no need to suggest the OP deceived anyone.

@Christmaspug

I am trying to get this right in my head:
As I understand it

Your Birth certificate says (making up names)

Jane Anne Smith

You have always used:
Anne Jane Smith

Your marriage certificate says

Anne Jane Smith and you became at this point

Anne Jane Jones. However, legally you should have become

Jane Anne Jones

You now want a passport in

Anne Jane Jones? The passport office won't allow that and nor will they allow
Jane Anne Jones because they say the marriage certificate is wrong?

They want proof of how you became Mrs Jones and will not accept the marriage certificate because the first names were swapped around?

Or are they willing to issue the passport as Jane Anne Jones and you just want Anne Jane Jones?

If they will issue a passport to Jane Anne Jones I would go with that. and simply book tickets in this.
If the issue is they won't accept the name change to Jones then you will need to get an official document as suggested here many times for the name change.

And to think of all of the threads we get caught up in about what middle name is ‘pretty’ or ‘flows’ (as if anyone says both together irl often) or those who say ‘but she’ll be known by her middle name’ etc.
Bloody hell I’m going off middle names by the minute !!!

If you want to use your given middle name as your first name go to a solicitor and spend some money to change your name by deed poll or statutory declaration. Keep a copy of it with your birth certificate so you have proof. That's exactly what I did many years ago. I'm known as a completely different name than what's on my birth certificate but I have to produce both my birth certificate and my statutory declaration documents when someone needs my birth certificate. My passport and all other documentation is in my new name.

" 'I Mary Jane Smith choose to renounce the name and hereby be known as Jane Jones from x date'"

Can you choose a date in the past?

It's completely understandable that they've tightened up, but there's no need to suggest the OP deceived anyone.

But she did deceive them. She knowingly lied on a legal document.

We were asked to double and triple check all our information when we went to give notice. And again on the day we had to double check everything before we got our marriage certificates.

I would also assume the marriage is not valid if the certificate names someone who is not legally her and was not her at the time of the marriage. It is certainly open to being contested.

I just don't understand why it was permitted to go ahead, and no checks done.

lyralalala
well of course it's 'nowadays'! FGS!

We all know that what was accepted 25 years ago as ID has changed.

No point trying to prove your point by saying it would have been right 2 decades ago.

And as for fraud- it's not scaremongering.

You can commit fraud without intent- ignorance is no defence in law. didn't you know that?

Very basic fact of English law.