Nursery letting DS sleep

[Motherofmonsters]

DS 2.5 goes to nursery on a Friday.

At home he doesn't have a nap but sometimes will at nursery which is generally okay as it's a much busier day.

However they 'promote healthy sleep' which means they aren't allowed to wake children up from a nap.

My problem is DS will not go to bed at 6.30 if they let him sleep longer than an hour. He ends up staying up to 8.30/9. Today they've let him sleep 2.15 hours!

They sent me a message to say they've woken him up even though they're not meant to but surely as the parent I should be able to allow them to wake him.

Do other nurseries wake their children?

Does it matter if he has a later bedtime on a friday?

I feel it does as I've struggled loads with his sleep and it really messes him up for a couple days after.

I don't really want him up until 9.30/10 which I'm sure will happen tonight

No, they don’t. If a child needs to sleep, they’ll be allowed to sleep (but lots of nurseries will “encourage” them to wake after a set length of time...like 2 hours).
Remember a nursery life is a busier life than at home.

Healthy sleep means a good bedtime too. Not waking them up would not be acceptable to me. Can you explain that it’s having a negative impact on his bedtime and ask them to reconsider? DD’s nursery will do whatever we ask.

He obviously needs the sleep. Waking him up means the nursery risk him being upset and grouchy!

My son's nursery are happy to wake them. They understand that letting them sleep past 2pm means that they don't fall asleep until 8.30, 9pm and end up overtired. I just explain that it affects his nighttime sleep and they're happy to wake him after 1.5 hours

Very mixed, I spoke to the manager about it and apparently DS has struggled a bit today so maybe he did need sleep. She said she understood the problems.of letting them sleep longer so hopefully it won't happen again.

I think at age 2.5 it's a bit much for you to except him to do a full, busy day at nursery without a sleep just because you want him in bed at 630. If they don't let him sleep or are forced to wake him after a short time, they'll end up dealing with a tired grumpy child. Not nice for them or your child. Imagine if all parents asked this of them!!
You could themto wake him after 1.5 or 2 hours because then he would have at least had a good chunk of sleep.

In the nursery I am at if parent says they are only allowed 30 mins, we try to keep to that or if they say not after 3.00 we try to keep to thet. They are being unreasonable.

I think 6:30pm is really early for bedtime at 2.5. My 1.5 year old won't go before 7:30.
I'd let him nap at nursery though. He might be an emotional puddle if he doesn't or if they wake him.

Mine went to a nursery at same age and it annoyed me that they did wake him up, it didn't seem fair to me and I know I hate being woken up when there's no need.

No reason why he can't stay up later, especially on a Friday.

My DD’s nursery had a policy that they would not wake a child in the first hour, but they would thereafter at parents’ request.

Regardless, 6.30 seems a very early bedtime for a 2.5 yo.

He doesn't nap at home so he's usually happy to go bed at 6.30. he doesn't normally wake up until 7 so it works for us

Whilst I think they should respect your wishes, a bedtime of 6.30 is very early. Its also perhaps a little sad, if he's been away from you all day, as height want to spend a little time with you before bed.

6.30 seems a really early bedtime to me

6:30 seems like a perfect bedtime for a 2 year old imo! My kids nursery were happy to wake children after whatever time the parents determined. My two were both a nightmare if they napped at all after age 2, so they didn’t nap at nursery unless they really needed it! I wouldn’t have been happy with mine napping for 2 plus hours, it would have meant that they wouldn’t have gone to bed until gone 9, and that extra time awake would have been tears and tantrums time not happy bonus cuddle time, and then they would have been tired and grumpy the following morning. I doubt you’ll have any luck with the nursery changing their policy though, so maybe it’s time to look for a nursery that’s a better fit for you.

I think they're being unreasonable. A quick hour's recharge around lunchtime is totally different to 2.5 hours in the middle of the afternoon. At that age, I don't think they do understand the concept of weekends- I certainly try to keep the general routine going regardless of what day it is.

Anything you read about improving your own sleep always says about going to bed at a similar time and having relaxing rituals. I don't see how making sure that they are still buzzing with energy when they would usually be ready for a snuggle and story is helpful for a toddler.

6:30 isn’t too early fir a 2yo, it’s just become earlier than the norm as working parents struggle to get home from work & get them in bed for that time. Many children would be all the better for not being up so late - people often don’t seem
To realise just how much sleep children should be getting!

Children have a right to sleep and no childcare provider will keep a child awake, however different providers will have different policies on waking/limiting sleep.

I'm a childminder and won't restrict sleep at all for under 2s. Under 3s I will encourage to wake (eg lights on/curtains open) after 90 minutes if parents' request it. I won't stop any child falling asleep though whether they are 2 or 8.

My 2.5 yo also goes to bed between 6.30 and 7.30pm and sleeps usually until 7am. He doesn't really nap. We stopped putting him down for naps as he wasn't going to sleep in the early afternoon. We'd have had to leave it until around 4pm - ish which is bonkers.

6.30 doesn't seem early to me either, my (just) three year old turns into a gremlin if she is up past that time and she will happily sleep until 8am.

My DS hasn't really had an afternoon nap since before he was 1.5! If he had one he would then be over tired and awake until 10/11pm. He's now 2.5 and even if he has 15 minutes sleep in the car he is up until 11pm and I'm exhausted enough and so desperately need that couple of hours child free time on a night for my mental health.

When he started at the childminders a couple of months ago I explained all of this to them. He did a couple of weeks of half days and then on his first full day they never mentioned they'd let him sleep for an hour. I knew at 7.30 though when he just wouldn't sleep and he was up until 10.45! I even said to them how I understand how it's a different environment etc but if they do let him sleep then please wake him up after 15 mins. If this was something that they refused to do then I'd change childcare providers.

6.30 is too early for a 2.5 year old bedtime.

our nursery asks the parents "do you want me to let sadie sleep after 5?"

i normally tell them do whatever you want, as long as my nursery age child is happy and not screaming as they are tired, then im happy!

So many opinions on the bedtime. If he sleeps for 11/11.5 hours from that time wake up at 6am maybe suits the OP better than a later wake up.