Coffee shops on a Sunday morning and children

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This will kick off no doubt but hey. Slightly tongue in cheek.

Coffee shops on a Sunday morning should be a haven for adults who seek to get away in piece and quiet from every day life for an hour. That means getting away from your own children , DH etc

So been here 5 mins , had to queue behind a mother with her toddler using the display of pastries like choosing sweets in a sweet shop ! Just pick up a croissant get your latte soya single shot and move along !

Then we have the child , mother and grandmother. The GM doing the exaggerated parenting in this case with the GC much to the horror of her own DD. Thankfully they've gone.

Piece and quiet now reins ....

Toddlers and kids- yes. A newborn? No

How come? Are the noises they make quieter than older children? Do their nappies not stink when they are filled?

I think that people are missing the point that formerbabe didn't complain about a baby taking her space, or being out in public, she decided that she didn't want to spend her precious childfree evening with a baby and so moved. Her choice. No babies had their feelings hurt.

We once spent money on a hotel room and dinner on Valentines night when DH were young and visiting relatives a few hundred miles away. We usually would have stayed with them the whole weekend but thought this would be a one night treat. It wasn’t particular cheap but as we hhad happened to get together on Valentine’s Day a couple of years earlier then engaged a year later then as cheesy as it seems now, until we actually got married then Valentine’s Day was special to us, more than just a stupid cheesey forced over expensive chance to get ripped off at a restaurant.

anyway, we had a lovely fancy meal then went to our room (honeymoon suite) for some shenanigans. Went to sleep looking forward to a nice lie in and instead go woken up at 6am by bloody kids running up and down screaming in the room upstairs. I was fuming. Rang reception to complain.

Who the heck takes kids to a hotel on Valentines Night where they’re putting on a special night in the restaurant?

No doubt there will be posters on here who would say “well those parents have every right to celebrate Valentine’s night at a nice hotel too.” Pish, i say! Go another bloody night when you know the amount of annoyance that other guests feel will be lessened by the fact that they’re paying a cheaper rate than the Valentine’s night mark up!

I dislike having to share space with the public in general. There are plenty of noisy and disruptive people around. Some of them happen to be children. Many others are adults. So rather than a child-free coffee shop, I would like to see a dickhead-free coffee shop.

This is why I'm very selective about where I get my coffee - the more higglety piggledy poncy artisanal the better.

I used to go to Costa packet type places when dd was small, but now i want good coffee and child free. Horses for courses.

My favourite coffee shop is a micro roastery with coffee sack cushions and crates for seats. It's as poncy hipster as it gets but the coffee is strong enough to stand a spoon in and impossible to get a buggy in.

On the occasion I go to Costa I expect there to be kids so for this reason YABU

Humans come in all shapes, sizes and ages. Accepting that will lower your stress levels

It's outrageous that the kids were running up and down the corridors on any day of the week. The fact it was valentine's Day has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Has anybody had the earth mother pulling a potty out in the middle of the restaurant or changing a baby on the table or her knees?

I had, and believe me... she might have thought her little one farted rainbows and popped little clouds, but certainly, it is anti social behaviour (or at least is since the people stopped going to the toilet in public)

Actually, scratch the earth mother off most of them are very considerate.

I like seeing families out and about in cafes. We usually go for coffee after out dog walk on Sunday morning ( having dropped dogs off at home because one of them is a PITA). Today we sat next to a lovely young couple with a newborn and near a family with four generations. Our own DC are grow up now. It gives me a warm feeling.

I want to open up my own children’s cafe, with an entire area of scatter cushions & toys to play, an outside area with swings, slides and a soft area to land. The adult area with be enclosed by a picket fence & they are not allowed in the children’s area, they’ll be two areas for D.C. 9itll be done on height

Adults can sit and drink whilst their D.C. play, they’ll be cctv cameras. But no interference by adults

OP has suggested that she wants a child-free space to have coffee on a Sunday morning and has been bombarded with people saying it would never work, it's a shit idea, it's biased against kids etc.

No, OP has said that all cafés should be child-free on a Sunday morning, which is indeed a shit idea. If OP had said 'there's a child-free café near me, WIBU to go there' then she'd have got very different answers

We often go out for hot chocolates and cake on a Sunday, I've got 3 children and 1 of them is dairy, soya and nut allergic so you'd hate to be behind me in a queue, I often spend £20plus to your £3latte though so they don't often care if my childen are slightly noisy, if you don't like them get a coffee to go and sit in your car or outside, no children there!

Sadly nowhere seems childfree these days.

I had my kids in the late 80s. There were loads of us in my ante natal classes and we met up every week in various combinations with our babies. None of us had big houses, and at least were in two bed terraced places. But we still managed fine (and I doubt that there was ever fewer than five or six of us at a time). And if anyone genuinely hasn't had space, that wouldn't have been a problem. No-one was forced to host.

Some of us were also on a tight budget. I could not have justified a weekly £3 coffee back then. And the babies/toddlers had freedom rather than being stuck, unstimulated in their buggies.

£20 for 4 people is not a high spend. A lot of adults will have a drink and a snack.

"At least a couple of us were in two bedroomed places*

I don't know where the missing words went

@lisasimpsonsbff and she did say it was tongue in cheek, but a lot of people seem to have missed that

@LisaSimpsonsbff I don't know a single cafe near me that is childfree, and there are a lot of cafes. We have no choice but to be surrounded by kids.
I have stopped going to cafes largely because they stopped being a relaxing experience.

@ivykaty44 that sounds like a fantastic idea!

Leighhalfpennysthigh

Then I can go and sit in the nearest cafe and I’ll naturally be child empty 😂

It's when there's hot drinks being carried and kids charging about. That makes me
I have no dc and so like peace and quiet when have a coffee. I expect this expectation will change when I have dc . However you can't ban dc from coffee shops but maybe a child free hour between 10&11 say. A bit like after 9pm in pubs

I’m not fussed about children or babies in the coffee shops.

But on the level

We need places geared directly at children, and families. We also need places that welcome dogs

A dog park, half for small dogs and half for big dogs with a cafe, restaurant and coffee shop on site is just nearby to my dd1s place abroad. Dd takes the dog and no one complains as it’s a dog park 😊

There is ONE dog free child free cafe in our town, although there must be close to a hundred others, most of which allow both. It is absolute bliss.

Kids themselves are fine really, I like them but it's definitely a different vibe when the performance parenting types aren't around so that makes it loads better. Dogs, I just can't stand them, and more and more places let them in now. Take it to a park where it can sniff its arsehole without impinging on my latte time fgs.