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“Ask for Angela” codeword in pubs & bars

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Rollergirl11 · 19/12/2019 20:49

Has anyone used this or know anyone that has? I’m interested to know how effective it is. Surely it’s only any use if there isn’t a huge queue at the bar to be served?

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Patroclus · 20/12/2019 12:56

They are in some of the men's toilets ive cleaned, yes.

Zaphodsotherhead · 20/12/2019 14:20

I'd like to see 'ask for Angela' rolled out in other environments. For example I work in a small local shop, I think we should have it as part of our staff training. Some women aren't comfortable in bars etc, but they could always 'pop into the shop for a bottle of water' if they find themselves on a date that is rapidly going in a direction they feel uncomfortable with.

Darkbendis · 20/12/2019 22:09

I saw the "dot" in the toilets in some medical centres where I work ( I am an interpreter). With a note that said something like this: if you are in an abusive relationship and want to inform your midwife or doctor in confidence, stick one of these stickers on your urine sample bottle.

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Thelnebriati · 20/12/2019 22:15

This is one reason single sex toilets are critical for women; if the abusive partner can go in there with her he will.

fedup21 · 20/12/2019 22:24

FGS stop repeating it
Unlike Angela, the other thing really has to be kept quiet to work. We should not discuss it.
Maybe ask for your posts to be deleted?

Why on earth would you try to stop people knowing about this?Confused

percheron67 · 20/12/2019 22:24

I thought 5his was going to be about a gay code! When cruising (ships!), I have often noticed ads about "friends of Dorothy" meeting in a certain room at a particular time. For ages I thought this was for people boring on about The Wizard of Oz!. Luckily someone took me to one side and explained.

Sewrainbow · 20/12/2019 22:49

I'm a hcp in nhs and didnt know a out black dots although I had heard of Angela on this forum

DeltaAlphaDelta · 20/12/2019 22:56

I work as a door supervisor. I know about ask angela from social media, but a lot of my colleagues have never heard of it. Its not in any official training ive ever had. Ive never been asked for angela but have had women ask me outright to help with someone who they were not happy about. Its not as well publicised as it should be

Thetellyisjelly · 20/12/2019 23:13

Very confusing for bar staff called Angela though !

SmileyClare · 21/12/2019 11:05

It's a good idea but seems to only work best in bars or clubs where it is heavily advertised, with posters etc. There seems little point in people promoting the "Ask Angela" code on social media when it only applies to places who have made staff and customers aware.

I think it's just as important that all women are aware of the dangers of meeting a random man from Tinder or similar. I'm surprised that posters on here have gone to bars alone to meet a Tinder date without any exit strategy in place or any thought to personal safety.

Although you might meet a lovely guy on Tinder, most men are on there for casual sex and can be coercive and threatening when rejected on a date.

It's crucial to have an exit strategy in place: meet somewhere familiar, have a friend nearby, arrange to text or ring a friend with your own agreed "code" if you need to escape the date, inform people of where you are going and have a taxi number ready or taxi booked in advance.

ShirleyPhallus · 21/12/2019 11:16

Although you might meet a lovely guy on Tinder, most men are on there for casual sex and can be coercive and threatening when rejected on a date.

This is such a load of fucking crap. There are some bad apples on Tinder but no different than meeting scumbags in real life.

Me and most of my friends (all mid 30s) met our husbands on tinder / bumble and had several proper relationships from them. Not all men are predatory pricks scouring tinder for their next picking.

SmileyClare · 21/12/2019 11:31

Yes you might meet your future husband/ a lovely guy on Tinder (as I already said) but my point is there are predatory men not just on internet hook up sites but in real life. Let's not pretend there aren't.

I wasn't shitting on Tinder or men as a whole, I was highlighting the importance for women to be aware of the real dangers of meeting men alone on dates without any kind of exit plan or thought to personal safety.

Shirley you and your friends must have taken steps to protect your safety when on Tinder Dates? That's all I'm saying and I apologise if I offended you. Let's not view "Ask Angela" as a safety net or rely on it working.

BlueSwathesChoose · 21/12/2019 11:48

This is all very interesting and I am glad to have learned about it.

percheron my dad loves going on cruises. He came back from one and said it was so odd, there was one room where people would go and sit for an hour every day and the sign said it was for 'Friends of Bill'. He thought who was Bill, why did he have so many friends and why did they all want to go and sit in a room together.

I had to explain it was code for AA. (Then I had to explain how I knew about it... I'm a friend of bill myself). :)

MoiraRose · 21/12/2019 11:54

I dont quite get how it's more useful than just ordering a cab yourself on your phone - something you can do on app so without uttering a word, you could do it secretly at your table

I live in an ancient semi-rural village on the coast, none of our local taxi companies have an app. You're lucky if they have a car available in a hurry

MoiraRose · 21/12/2019 11:58

I've heard of it, and think it's a great idea if staff know about it.

My local is owned by my friend's uncle, she is actually called Angela, so if I asked him for Angela he wouldn't have a clue and probably ring her!

Heyduggeefordays · 21/12/2019 13:31

I was aware of the ask for Angela but have been fortunate enough to never have to use it. Recently seen it implemented in my town by our local police force by heavily advertising it on their social media accounts. So can only assume that pubs & clubs have been made aware of the scheme.

percheron67 · 21/12/2019 17:57

Blue/swathes. Thank you. I shall note this next time I sail. Pleased to hear that there is support, when needed, even when on holiday. All Good Luck for your future.

BlueSwathesChoose · 21/12/2019 18:17

And to you percheron. :)

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