Would you have voted Labour if they had a different leader?

[FilthyBiscuit]

Ok, I'm sorry for another election thread, but DP and me are discussing tonight's results and whether Brexit or Jeremy Corbyn are why Labour are losing so many seats. I know things are not so simple and of course anti-semitism has been such a huge issue as well, but I am just interested in whether if JC had been replaced by someone else if it would have made a difference.

No. As a whole I loved the idea of a lot of labour's policies but so many of them were never going to happen that I didn't know what we'd be left with. I couldn't vote for them because of the equality act and grc and also because of their proposed changes for 30 hours free childcare which would have crippled the childcare industry even further (both dh and I work in childcare and we couldn't risk our family income).

I would have loved to have voted labour (especially for poverty and the nhs) but their policies as a whole were far too left. Maybe if JC hadn't been in charge then some of these things wouldn't have been issues and maybe yes I could have voted labour but it was the policies that concerned us, regardless of who was leader.

I spoke to quite a few people who said the same. Theres a huge sense from labour supporters that the "idiot" Tory voters just didn't want JC in, which imo just wasn't the case.

I'm with OnlyFoolsnMothers in that I also swore I'd never vote Labour again after Blair and his unelected successor Brown ran this country into the ground and caused many of the ills that continue to beset it today.

Nine years of austerity later and I may have reneged on my vow, but Corbyn was too bitter a pill to swallow; another dangerous fantasist hellbent on imposing his own agenda on those foolish enough to buy his brand of snake oil.

I couldn't bring myself to vote for his party, but I hope that BoJo gets his act together and shows he's worthy of the confidence that so many have placed in him through the ballot box. Less bluster and more gravitas would get him off to a good start - and he's certainly got a head start over the ashes of Labour and its need to rise like a pheonix if its to regain any credibility as a party that's fit to govern.

Yep. If they'd elected Yvette Cooper I'd probably have voted for them. Why oh why have they never elected a female leader??? I think there is a vein of misogyny in the hard left. The Conservatives managed it over 40 years ago!

Yes I would have! Plus we have a parachuted in Labour MP whose wife was a Danish prime minister and mum and dad were career politicians. No ties to the area and no understanding of it either

I've always voted conservative but would have voted labour this time round if they had a different leader. As it was, I spoiled the ballot because the thought of voting for any of the main parties made me feel sick to my stomach.

I voted lib dems rather than Labour. Always voted Labour. Jesus, JC was unelectable from the get go. I have no idea why they have allowed it.
David Milliband was the answer.

Cooper with a less unicorns-and-free-broadband manifesto - yes, I would have voted Labour. My Labour MP is a good one, moderate, brilliant constituency MP. I held my nose and voted for him in 2017 despite JC, couldn't do it yesterday (antisemitism, the scarily authoritarian tendencies of the far left, the fear that their policies would tank the economy).

Yes.

Yes, I would have done if they had someone sensible like Keir Starmer. I would like a more left wing government (than what we’ve got). But not him and John McDonnell.

@BarbaraStrozzi has it.

Yes, but only if he or she was prepared to fully endorse women's rights. And those of reliogious and ethnic minorities. Thank fuck Corbyn's gone. Do better, Labour. If you think you can win elections alienating your core demographic allow me to say "i fucking told you so, you tone-deaf misogynists".

And yy to Keir Starmer. hot intelligent and moderate. I can see him stepping into a Tony-Blair before-the-fall type leadership.

Thank fuck Corbyn's gone.
He’s not - he’s going to hang around like a bad smell to “oversee a period of reflection”.

I quite viscerally loathe Johnson but loathe Corbyn more. The Labour Party (Momentum) are extremely arrogant and decided they knew better than the electorate, and campaigned that way.

Corbyn's not gone yet and it remains to be seen how much 'reflecting' the Party has to do before he considers he's got a big enough pension pot to return to the obscurity of the back benches.

I know several people who didn't vote labour for the first time because of Corbyn. Previously strong labour supporters who just couldn't do it. They didn't vote Tory instead though. But then I also know a few people who didn't vote Tory for the first time this year because of Johnson.

This election to me just felt like none of the parties had leaders people actually felt they could trust or who they wanted to become prime minister.

I loathe Boris but I’m terrified of Corbyn.

I would have voted for a more centrist Labour.

Well, as good as gone, hopefully. If he could take my horrible corbynite mp with him when he goes, that would help.

No - I voted for the party, not the leader. It wasn’t as simple as JC vs BJ

No not just the leader but a manifesto overhaul too. I'm all for saving the nhs and schools etc but i found that manifesto far too focused on spending and too away from my other opinions.

I didn't vote tory either. It was a hard call as ultimately i voted for least worst imo and a good local candidate. Still not happy as a vote for least worst, isn't a ringing endorsement.

But yes i do not care for JC. He and BJ are jokes

I'm not sure. I have always fell towards Tory, but couldn't do that either.
Labour wasn't believable that they could follow through on their policies.
I just hope BJ starts to show leadership rather than Ego and bullying

I did vote Labour but it was a very difficult decision with Corbyn in charge. If they had had someone more moderate at the top they would have walked it.
They are still so blind though, blaming Brexit.

It was the policies, but he was responsible for those policies. The conservatives were very beatable in this election. Labour needed to be far more centrist economically to be electable and to be very clear whether they were in or out on brexit.

They are still so blind though, blaming Brexit.

I think they are too far left for a lot of people including me. I voted for policies not the leader. All the online quiz confirmed my choice and dare I say it, the bullying and name calling by some labour supporters online also confirmed that it wasn't a party I would want to be associated with at this point in time.

It's a shame as I used to be more labour than conservative but I just can't see that changing unless they move to a middle ground which seems a long way off right now.

Yes a more centralisist Labour Party with a more reasonable leader with a more clear stance about brexit I would have voted for in a heartbeat. I voted Lib Dem. I was hoping there might be some sort of Lib Dem co-alition as the two main parties are such disasters. Very sad.