Prince Andrew Part 3

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Since there has been such active discussion on the last 2 threads, here is a new one!

And there’s more..another witness corroborates VR night at Tramp disco story

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7767845/I-saw-Andrew-Virginia-Roberts-Tramp-fateful-night-Second-witness-tells-lawyer.html

He looks sweaty as fuck there!

He’s had his mucky fingers in lots of pies hasn’t he? The sense of entitlement is just disgusting. I hope there is a full enquiry and he’s totally disgraced. Then he might crawl off under a rock and save us all a lot of money.

Ex mp nigel mills is calling for complete investigation

Do ex mps Have the power to do that?
If so can anyone do that.
I’d like to call for a complete investigation of the royal family’s finances also to see where me and my ordinary family’s tax dollars went / are still going.
Perhaps you’d all like to join me?

I believed

Sorry. I believe her but in a sense it doesn't matter if you don't. He was clearly involved in a world where older men had sex with teenagers whenever they wanted to. There is nothing we can do.

Absolutely agree with everything toscanello says. Spot on. There is no excuse for his paedophilic, predatory behaviour. V. Looks very very young in some of the photos and despite his wealth and entitlement, PA will have known he was the lead plaster in an abusive situation. He is vile and it's not only his sexually behaviour which needs to be questioned but also his misuse of funds, abuse of his role as trade envoy and his shady dealings that need to be investigated. The RF seem very keen to bury this and move on and I'm delighted the papers are refusing to drop this story.

I am quite shocked at the reports that he believes he's been treated 'harshly' in having to relinquish his public profile. Seems he really believes his own spin. His arrogance and sense of entitlement have never shone more brightly.

I honestly don’t think he realises what he’s done...
Is anyone around him really going to tell it as it is?
Mummy seems to support him and he says the wider family ‘couldn’t be more supportive’.
What does that tell you?

Is Ghislane Maxwell ever going to be found?

Not on your nelly.

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I honestly don’t think he realises what he’s done...
Is anyone around him really going to tell it as it is?

In one of the articles I read, it said that when the Royal Family was publicly shamed previously (maybe after Diana?) They realised they had to change in their centuries old approach, so brought in lots of external senior professional PR people to whip their courtiers into shape. The new people tried to bring order and discipline to the RF and were universally hated by all the existing staff. That was years ago and the new people all been replaced with Hooray Henry 'Yes men' again. So I think the entire family and their staff exist in an unprofessional bubble, completely disconnected from the real world.

Maybe slightly off-topic but seems Beatrice has called off the flashy engagement party for fear of the media scrum around her father. Which is odd considering the party was to be in the Chiltern Firehouse - which is well-known as a place people go when they want their photo to be taken. And still no wedding date even though the engagement was announced months ago. I wonder if her fiance is going to bail after all this negative publicity?

Totally agree Toscanello

Sorry. I believe her but in a sense it doesn't matter if you don't. He was clearly involved in a world where older men had sex with teenagers whenever they wanted to. There is nothing we can do.

And as Our ambassador and paid servant his sense of moral duty should’ve come to the fore and he should’ve carpeted JE and the other indulgent people for mixing with children on this way

So yes, he’s as guilty as fuck in my eyes.

someone else summed it up perfectly that a 40 year old man should not sleep with a 17 year old
that is not normal !!

Haven’t Rich old men often have gorgeous young girls hanging off their arms? I’m not saying it’s right but it’s ever been thus.

An ex friend (huge fat old rich guy) of my dads had the most gorgeous woman as his companion. He knew she was only interested in him for his money.

Is Ghislane Maxwell ever going to be found?

I suspect her whereabouts are actually known but that she is engaged in frantic plea bargaining negotiations.

Does anyone think that an investigation into PA would bring down the royal family? Do you think he ever WILL be investigated? I'm unsure. So much just gets brushed under the carpet...

CathyorClaire

Is Ghislane Maxwell ever going to be found?

I suspect her whereabouts are actually known but that she is engaged in frantic plea bargaining negotiations.

Wasn't she too involved in the abuse to get a plea bargain? She was second only to Epstein himself in abusing the girls. Do you think the FBI would let her get away with a slap on the wrist? Though I suppose they've given plea bargains to hitmen before so it's possible.

She would have to give up hundreds of people for it to be worthwhile to them to go easy on her. Also, I doubt the FBI are pursuing it too hard. Hundreds of public figures and politicians would go down by the sounds of it and I think there's huge political pressure from all over the world to keep this quiet.

In one of the articles I read, it said that when the Royal Family was publicly shamed previously (maybe after Diana?) They realised they had to change in their centuries old approach, so brought in lots of external senior professional PR people to whip their courtiers into shape.

How true to form that the RF felt their disgrace lay at the courtiers' door!

Wasn't she too involved in the abuse to get a plea bargain? She was second only to Epstein himself in abusing the girls. Do you think the FBI would let her get away with a slap on the wrist?

Well, Epstein himself got a plea deal and a nominal sentence (the one where when he was released PA was among those invited to celebrate) so I reckon nothing's off the table. They already have GM's little black book so have plenty of whos but there's likely to be mileage in the whens, wheres and hows I would think?

And now GM herself reported to be in talks about giving a major TV interview in the US. She surely wouldn't be doing that if she thought she was going to be arrested on set:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7771377/Jeffrey-Epsteins-pimp-Ghislaine-Maxwell-plans-tell-interview-TV.html

Plus. Alleged constant email contact with PA...

Ì think you can tell a lot about people when they insist on being addressed by title / status.

When William and Harry are interviewed they seem to be OK with a single, 'your highness' and then use their names.

In PA's interview he was referred to as 'Sir' throughout, I know that is the protocol but it's a bit dated. I wonder if the reporter had to curtsey as well?

I know, I noticed that too. I hate all this obsequiousness. Maybe towards the Queen but not PA!

The queen is complicit as the met declined to look into the claims when Virginia reported them. Don't tell me that is nothing to do with the family pulling strings. The whole thing is sordid and disgusting.