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Prince Andrew Part 2

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SunsetBoulevard3 · 19/11/2019 15:59

Here is another thread to discuss the PA interview and its repercussions.

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abbey44 · 21/11/2019 10:55

Given how close the Yorks have remained since their divorce, I always found it a bit incredible that PA was apparently unaware of SF selling access to him for vast amounts of cash. Especially with their joint purchase of that £13m ski chalet.

camelandsushi · 21/11/2019 10:56

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Dowser · 21/11/2019 11:00

Camel
I’ve heard this story
Hasn’t Kevin Annett been discredited.

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ajandjjmum · 21/11/2019 11:07

Many very wealthy people have made their fortune by introducing contacts to each other.

I think Andrew and Fergie probably thought they were just doing the same, probably encouraged by some dodgy contacts. Unfortunately neither of them have the intelligence and sensitivity to realise that the Royal family should not be doing this, if they wish to retain their role in the country.

SamanthaBrique · 21/11/2019 11:08

The story about the queen kidnapping and murdering children in Kamloops is sheer tinfoil hat territory.

SerendipityJane · 21/11/2019 11:10

I think the queen needs to shoulder some of the blame for this situation. She doesn't seem to have any control. She's quite happy for her offspring to do whatever they like and only now when people complain in large numbers does she do anything! She could have curbed his behaviour years ago - and should have. I think she's as entitled and arrogant as the rest of them.

This is the endemic problem the Royals will always face. No amount of soft focus documentary attempts to portray them as even remotely "normal" can change the fact they are anything but. Even now, in the depths of this scandal, will any of them ever have to worry where their next meal is coming from. Or if today they should skip eating so they can put money in the meter.

If they had actually earned their position themselves, like (for examples, J.K Rowling, Richard Branson or Lord Sugar) there might be some leeway.

But they didn't. They were born into it, and it's forged their every perception of the world as owing them a living.

And talk of how "active" they are in charities should really raise questions about why the worlds 5th richest country needs charities to provide it's own citizens with formula milk. Not some misty-eyed wankfest about how wonderful the royals are. "They do so much for charity ....". So fucking what ? If I didn't have to worry about housing, food, or clothing my kids, I'd love to do lots of work for charity as would thousands of others. Only we can't afford to.

Better stop now, before I get cross.

BilboBercow · 21/11/2019 11:25

People think that David Icke is a crackpot because that's what he is. His antivax stuff is ludicrous. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day

RhinoskinhaveI · 21/11/2019 11:41

The reason they do work for charity is to keep the pitchforks at bay
because if not for the charity work they would be poncing about like Marie Antoinette and that wouldn't go down too well would it

Roussette · 21/11/2019 11:45

If the RF want to survive, I think they should make drastic changes. I think the Queen should abdicate now, in favour of Charles. Spain has done that, Belgium has... she is too old to be effective and the whole thing needs to be streamlined which is what I've read that Charles wants.

So sorry Andrew, it's no good complaining any more that your daughters aren't getting enough royal priviliges which is obviously a bugbear of yours, he wanted Kensington palace apartments and royal duties for them, titles for their husbands etc.

Sorry mate, you're in Siberia from now on.

ThatLibraryMiss · 21/11/2019 11:54

According to this BBC piece, they understand that Prince Andrew will no longer be supported by the Queen out of the Sovereign Grant.

It says, "it is understood the money he receives from the public purse - known as the Sovereign Grant - for travel and expenses for official engagements, will now end". Not funding travel and expenses isn't the same as no longer supported. There's still scope for Brenda to keep paying his pocket money.

SerendipityJane · 21/11/2019 11:58

If the RF want to survive, I think they should make drastic changes

Maybe the public could have a say ?

LarkDescending · 21/11/2019 12:06

ThatLibraryMiss

She can keep paying him pocket money out of her private resources, but not out of the Sovereign Grant, which is statutorily ring-fenced for the carrying out of the monarch’s official business, including such of that business as she delegates to working royals.

Roussette · 21/11/2019 12:06

Bearing in mind Brexit, I doubt we could ever have a referendum on the RF!

QueenOfTheAndals · 21/11/2019 12:20

What about his security costs? I gather that those are funded by the public purse and aren't included in the "they only cost us 50p each per year" figure.

LarkDescending · 21/11/2019 12:27

I don’t think an announcement has been made on his future security arrangements. It’s probably in the nature of security arrangements that any changes won’t be announced.

Beatrice and Eugenie, as non-working royals, don’t have routine police protection - so perhaps that will be Andrew’s future too.

RhinoskinhaveI · 21/11/2019 12:46

As an apologist for a pedophile sex trafficker, and an extremely recognisable person.... well, one would want to have one's back watched very closely wouldn't one

Roussette · 21/11/2019 12:50

I wonder if there's anything in this...

www.thesun.co.uk/news/10392038/prince-andrew-filmed-bedroom-cams-epstein-mansion/

Perhaps he thought he could bluster his way through but now more skeletons are coming out the closet.

RhinoskinhaveI · 21/11/2019 12:52

How could he be so stupid as not to anticipate that more skeletons would emerge?

LarkDescending · 21/11/2019 12:57

Has a new skeleton emerged? Or are they still going through the footage to see what’s there?

ajandjjmum · 21/11/2019 12:57

I thought that if any more skeletons were around, they would have come to light over the past 2/3 years?

LarkDescending · 21/11/2019 13:01

It’s entirely possible that Epstein’s death has meant that there is better access to evidence he may have been withholding. I don’t think they’ve yet said who (if anyone) is implicated by it, though.

Wilmalovescake · 21/11/2019 13:06

I’d love to be a fly on the wall in Buck House this week.

Stupid arrogant entitled man. I’ve never heard anyone have a good word to say about him.

Roussette · 21/11/2019 13:09

I thought that if any more skeletons were around, they would have come to light over the past 2/3 years?

As I understand it, the evidence is being gone through... all this is since Epstein was murdered/committed suicide.

Incidentally the guards who were supposedly watching over him are now in prison themselves. Because they didn't. Make of that what you will....

SirHumphreyDrinkalot · 21/11/2019 13:12

A PA sex tape? Dear God, it’s lunch time Shock

Roussette · 21/11/2019 13:16

Nor me Wilma.

I'm older than most on here (in my 60s), been here forever, the Royals have been huge when I was a child, there was such deference and reverence for them then. But then along comes Andrew and his ghastly ex wife. (They got married the same year as me). From day one I could not stand Andrew, he had that superior sense of entitlement I loathed.

So, apart from all the Epstein lies, how he could sit there with that pathetic Newsnight interview saying things like he can't understand why he is called The Party Prince because he has never partied... pathetic! He promoted that idea. He thought he was the handsome Prince, the fun partying Prince, I remember it well as he was my era.

I hope he disappears into obscurity, he deserves to.