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Things I have learnt since becoming rich (a.k.a. fuck you: Nigella and Jamie)

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TheAutumnHere · 01/11/2019 08:40

  1. Having an oven that holds temperature stops cakes falling
  2. A stand mixer simplifies baking by a factor of at least 4, and improves the results
  3. Branded vacuum cleaners actually remove dirt from the floor
  4. Le Creuset pans don't stick, and just wipe clean
  5. Baking with children is delightful japes, when timed the morning before the cleaner comes
  6. Corn fed chicken is the bomb

Just leaving a note to my past self - who never cut herself any slack and thought she was a slattern and a crap cook.

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Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 20:27

Jesus. We're getting reaaaal simple now.

Me no have pennies as teenager. Me not sit on arse and mope or make excuses. Me only have pennies to rent room in council house.

Me get degree at 23. Me qualify a few years later.

Me no able to go back in time and financially advise 18yr old self.

Bad me.

RiddleyW · 02/11/2019 20:38

You described yourself as shite with money last year though.

morningdread · 02/11/2019 20:43

Try digging through my threads again. Slowwwwly.

So I can see more comments about other women's saggy tits or obese children? I'm good.

Me get degree at 23. Me qualify a few years later.

So why did you give that up for lap dancing? I though you only stopped because you're expecting again?

And, you can have a boyfriend in 2018 and be married in 2019.

So it's the same boyfriend that's now a DH or a different one? Because according to that 2018 post you were
supporting him & he wanted a Volvo (I have an XC90 so not knocking them but there not Aston Martins) but it was too expensive.

Then there was the other post about your DC1s father who wasn't paying cm even though he's a high earner.

I will repeat it again slowwwwly what sacrifices & choices did you yourself make that made you comfortable now?
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morningdread · 02/11/2019 20:45

You should let go of all that resentment & anger, it's just not healthy Thanks

Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 20:46

Ahhhhhhhhhhh. Yes without context.

I have little physical cash savings. I'm shite at that. Happy to say.

As has been mentioned by other PP, assets and physical cash are two very different things. A £1m house with no mortgage or a load of equity due to crazy house inflation is very different to someone who's saved the physical cash equivalent.

morningdread · 02/11/2019 20:49

A £1m house with no mortgage or a load of equity due to crazy house inflation is very different to someone who's saved the physical cash equivalent.

Oh so you have benefited from house inflation & not just by climbing the greasy pole (😜). What sacrifices & choices can a 25 yr old today make & do to ensure they benefit from crazy house inflation?

Tessabelle74 · 02/11/2019 20:54

Things I have learnt to have a stealth brag about on a public forum just so I can say I'm rich

PickAChew · 02/11/2019 20:59

Ducking back into thread...

If you didn't have that ridiculously heavy cast iron frying pan you wouldn't need a special pan for pancakes.

Ducking back out again.

AmateurSwami · 02/11/2019 21:04

We've had council tenants actually turn down a property because "Ew, it's got brown carpets." Apologies if the free house paid for the rest of us, does not meet your design requirements madam

That’s funny, because previous tenants have to remove all flooring, or the council will charge them and do it themselves. There’s no carpets in a council property that’s being newly moved into.

taybert · 02/11/2019 21:13

I’m sure what we all want to know here, is what Courtney555’s cakes are like.

Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 21:20

So why did you give that up for lap dancing? I though you only stopped because you're expecting again?

  1. Because I wanted too.
  2. Correct.

So it's the same boyfriend that's now a DH or a different one? Because according to that 2018 post...

Different.

I will repeat it again slowwwwly what sacrifices & choices did you yourself make that made you comfortable now?

I took a box room in a shared council house with four other people so I could get enough money together for a house deposit. I could have spent more and had my own tiny flat to myself which would have been so much nicer, but that would have left no money to save. Two of the guys were absolutely filthy (hygiene wise) and another forever pinched my food from the fridge. And it took a while, as I said I'm shite at cash saving, but I stuck at it instead of making excuses that it wasn't possible. I had to be shrewd and shop second hand because it enabled me to have better quality things on a shoestring budget because £10 at a carboot or charity shop can get you worlds more than £10 in the poundshop. I worked two jobs, at one point three, and put myself through my studies. I had to live on a shoestring because I had no choice. It didn't mean I had to live with nothing. I learned to cook from cheaply from scratch. Whenever DS grew out of anything, I sold it, often for a profit on eBay as it was probably bought secondhand from a jumble sale. I know that the life lessons I learned in those early starting out days have stuck with me throughout my adult life. DH finds it funny now how I make £5 go so far, to the extent that he's now caught the bargain bug and has changed a lot in his lifestyle to reflect that, even though we are fortunate enough not to have to do it out of necessity. Even now, I don't throw anything away. I do a car boot. Or put things on FB for sale. Old habits etc. I would be comfortable and happy with a home full of nice things now, whether I was with DH or not. I would have that because of my choices and sacrifices. Not despite them.

True story. The hedgie I was with (who was totally self made and had come from a working class background) had a jet. In a little private airport terminal one morning he wanted a muffin from a pop up stall there. He went hungry instead because the plain muffins were €5 and it was "daylight robbery." Sounds ludicrous, but again it was almost a reflex, old habits...

Latkes · 02/11/2019 21:22

Umm I reckon you must have had it in you to be good at cooking. I think it’d take more than expensive equipment to make me a good cook. It’d probably require me to pay for Nigella or Jamie to stand there and yell the instructions at me or just do it for me.
Congratulations on become rich though !

Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 21:22

Oh so you have benefited from house inflation

Do you literally just make stuff up? Or genuinely have difficulty understanding? In which case, apologies for taking the piss Flowers

morningdread · 02/11/2019 21:26

Have you or haven't you then?

morningdread · 02/11/2019 21:27

I can't be bothered to read your long post

Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 21:30

That’s funny, because previous tenants have to remove all flooring, or the council will charge them and do it themselves. There’s no carpets in a council property that’s being newly moved into.

I'm not sure which council you deal with, but we have never encountered this as a policy. Carpets are often being partially replaced by the council on tenancy changes (which maybe they reclaim back from the tenant, I don't know) but they get replaced because: (and these are all things we, and parents have directly had in our BTLs) tenant has burnt the carpet, tenant has left dog excrement engrained in carpet, tenant has spilt something of a bleaching nature on carpet, tenant has cut large circle out of carpet Confused and my personal favourite, tenant drew smiley faces in permanent marker on carpet Grin

Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 21:31

I can't be bothered to read your long post

There. Fixed it for you Smile

morningdread · 02/11/2019 21:37

In which case, apologies for taking the piss

Don't feel too bad, I just saw a photo of your Christmas tree, very tasteful hun!

DC are back from fireworks now so I'm off.

@Courtney555 I genuinely hope you win the not smoking whilst pregnant battle. Maybe you could spend more time off MN (so much posting) & read up on the dangers. Good luck 😘

Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 21:40

Poor little woman. Good luck in life Flowers

(Puffs cigar knowledgeably)

Tinkobell · 02/11/2019 21:41

I am rich. I've got millions. But what I learned is that wealth doesn't bring happiness, or if it does, its short lived and superficial. Wealth also doesn't prevent illness and disease from which all humans are vulnerable and throwing money can't fix these problems. I genuinely believe that having less money at certain times might have prevented some of the pain which blights my life. Getting rid of the money now wouldn't alleviate the problems. I wasn't born rich, but became rich. My kids haven't done well on being born rich. I don't recommend rich tbh and that's the truth.

Courtney555 · 02/11/2019 21:55

I am rich. I've got millions. But what I learned is that wealth doesn't bring happiness, or if it does, its short lived and superficial. Wealth also doesn't prevent illness and disease from which all humans are vulnerable and throwing money can't fix these problems. I genuinely believe that having less money at certain times might have prevented some of the pain which blights my life. Getting rid of the money now wouldn't alleviate the problems. I wasn't born rich, but became rich. My kids haven't done well on being born rich. I don't recommend rich tbh and that's the truth.

Amen to that. Ex DP couldn't count hardly anyone as a real friend as they all eventually turned out to be in it for what they could get. And he was terribly ill for the best part of a year, which whilst he could afford the most comfortable care, it was no more than genetic luck that he responded to the treatment. It could have so easily gone the other way. One of his DC was bullied horribly for being "privileged" (like she had a choice who her dad was) to the extent that she developed an eating disorder. You are so right. It's a superficial happiness. One that I'm in some ways grateful to have experienced, because it was definitely an experience, but equally relieved to have left behind.

DH and I have a fraction of what ex DP did. But am I happier? Absolutely. And would I be unhappy if we lost it all tomorrow knowing how life was when I had so much less disposable income? Not especially.

iknowimallmine · 02/11/2019 22:19

No one is hating on you OP. Atleast I wasn't. Just like you weren't at fault when you didn't have money. I was just pointing out that since having more money the experience is more pleasurable. It's not the gadgets..never were. Money just generally makes life much much easier. It's not that you have good pans or a good oven. It's because now you probably can afford better ingredients, have someone to clean up after you, don't have to worry about next big expense...and probably moved to an area with better water quality. Same goes for other things such as cleaning. Now that you have a cleaner who does a thorough clean even if it's once a week you just have to do light cleaning which means whichever hoover you use will be good.

MitziK · 02/11/2019 22:46

I agree with the OP's point. We've gone from a combined income of £1100 a month with non negotiable costs of £850 last Autumn (plus emergency expenses of £100 a week due to a medical emergency) to one of £3400.

This change means that we can get equipment that works. A blender that can cope with blending (glares at Tesco), an oven that has more temperatures than 1. off and 2. hotter than the surface of the sun and is still cheaper buying new and installing legally than it would be to get an engineer out and paying for the correct parts, as it needs about 5 replacing along with the thermostat. A microwave that heats evenly, won't rust and can be mounted on a shelf, thus freeing up space to run another worktop along that side of the kitchen. We can get new pans that have non stick that lasts and/or can take the heat of a hob without buckling. I won't replace all of them because I got stainless steel saucepans in Argos in 1992 that are perfectly adequate. But I'm going to get a good frying pan because the cheap ones we had have all stuck, even with far more fat that I want to use, after a couple of months.

It's easy to clean up because we could afford to replace the last burned out vacuum cleaner (lasted 3 months and Amazon wouldn't take it back) with a Miele and I won't tear my abdominal muscles scrubbing the floor on my hands and knees like I did in February because we have a steam mop now. The replacement dishwasher will mean we use less water to get things clean and when we do need to run the tap, we won't waste water because the hot is guaranteed to come through since we had the new boiler fitted.

Yes, I could already cook. But I'm a way better cook when I'm not trying to compensate for shit equipment or fighting all the other crap in our lives that was as a result of being skint. Not just because I'm happier, but because we have decent stuff that works.

A good cook is a good cook. But to be a great cook requires equipment that is up to the job - would Nigella be able to cater for a dinner party in an alluring manner with twenty quid and a knackered toaster? Like fuck would she. Would any of them be able to prepare steak tartare with a kitchen knife from the pound shop or glued to the spot as though the floor was lava because there is exactly 50cm x 60cm of worktop in the entire 180cm x 140cm kitchen? It would look like cat food - or they'd walk out, screaming about how impossible it was to work in these conditions. Her fucking fridge freezer probably takes up more floor space than that.

Those little old ladies in rural wherever can cook because their 'not special' equipment will include an ancient rolling pin made of decent wood, a cast iron pan made about 80 years ago, good quality ingredients from the local area (organic eggs from their own chickens, sun ripened tomatoes grown on their rich volcanic soil, top quality oil from their great grandfather's olive trees), a 120 year old wood fired oven, knives that have been sharpened a thousand times and seemingly, from the TV shows, a 250 year old solid oak table larger than my entire kitchen.

Mummadeeze · 03/11/2019 09:07

Just wanted to say I enjoyed reading your posts OP and think you should be a writer. Your writing has great flair to it and brings your point of view to life. Rich or poor, I will always be a terrible cook, but I definitely get your point. My sister is a great cook but is very rich, with lots of space and time on her hands to be patient and top notch equipment. I can see how that helps. I am time poor and cash poor but luckily have no desire to cook so am happy taking short cuts.

Skyejuly · 03/11/2019 09:35

Being poor sucks when appliances break!

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