What true crime has left you baffled?

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I'm watching a show on sky crime called, "Who killed Garrett Phillips."

I'm baffled at how the police came to the conclusion that their main suspect did it. Apart from the fact, that he was on camera in his car at the school (he worked there) and the victim was also on camera 7 seconds later, nowhere near his car.

It is truly bizarre.

Also meant to mention it earlier, but the disappearance of Charlene Downes.

I hadn't heard of Kendrick Johnson, so have just read up a bit. I'm a bit confused as to how he ended up where he did, was it usual practice to dive headfirst into an upright rolled up mat to get the shoes? Or did they normally tip it I've first, but couldn't because there were extra mats in the way?

What an awful thing to happen. It does seem that it was a freak accident.

Bible John murders
Margaret Fleming - Carers Avril and Eddy obviously guilty and rightly convicted of murder without a body ever being found. Don't get how they got away with it for 19 - 20 years.
Disappearance of Corrie Mckeague - body suspected of being in landfill site.
The long island serial killer - 20 years of killings and not any closer to catching the culprit.
Jack the Ripper - obviously peaks most people's interests.
There is a fantastic online community that I am a member called Web Sleuths - great bunch of people and great for sharing info on cold cases and analysing. Has a few retired detectives, criminologists, and criminal lawyers on there that are a wealth of knowledge.

If you google Louise Kay you will get a petition to ask for the garden where she may have been buried to be dug up. I have signed, hopefully if they get more signatures then it might go ahead. I agree that they should be examining the gardens of any property he lived in.

Not I read that they commonly lifted the shoes up from under the mats, then would sometimes climb up and sit on/among them. Seems he dropped a shoes/the shoes down the rolled up mat whilst sat up there, then thought nothing of just shimmying down and reaching for it/them and slipped and became stuck. It's just bloody awful.

Aquamarine1029 "The unsolved murder of Judy Smith. She went missing in 1997 from Philadelphia while visiting the city with her husband while he attended a business conference. Her body was found about 5 months later, and the details are absolutely baffling."

I've just looked that up (here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Smith_homicide) Very very strange case.

We have a very local one Corrie McKeague - seen on CCTV going into a tiny yard and that’s it. They think he ended up in landfill but no body recovered from searches.

I'd like to know who killed Sophie Toscan du Plantier. There is a podcast about her murder - West Cork - and it was a horrible, brutal murder. I don't think anyone will ever be brought to justice because the investigation was so flawed.

I watched the documentary on Charlene Downes. I really don't know who did it. The evidence did seem to point to the people who were put on trial, but she seems to have such a chaotic home life too it did make me think was it someone closer to home?

Maura Murray. Very strange case in the US. She crashed her car and just disappeared

@SirVixofVixHall unless you were at the conception you can't be certain. He looks the spitting image of Mia farrow's dad.

Sinatra looks like her dad also. Are you suggesting that Sinatra is actually her brother then?

I think he is far more like Frank than he is John Farrow, although he has obviously a resemblance to his mother, and she her father.
He has no elements of Woody at all. I remain convinced that he is Sinatra’s son.

Hmmmmm

They don't even look alike on that picture 🤷🏽‍♀️😂

Their noses are the same!

I think he looks a lot like Frank

Same jaw line too

They aren't. His mother's nose is more similar as is his grandads. The most similar thing on that carefully selected picture (bearing in mind there are thousands upon thousands of pictures available of both men) is their mouth.

Mia farrow also has the same mouth. And they've all had lots of dental work

The 2017 Delphi murders, awful case.

Not that it's a true crime of course

The true crimes mentioned on here mostly seem not very baffling.

Everything seems to point to Corrie McKeague sleeping in a bin and then being crushed by a bin lorry

Maura Murray was acting very strangely. Quite probably suicidal.

Kendrick Johnson slipped into the mat and couldn't breathe whilst trying to retrieve his shoe

Place marking!!

He definitely doesn't look like a Woody Allen

Don’t think the Girl Scout Murders have been mentioned yet, terrible case from the US in 1977.

Where the police have caught a known serial killer, why would they not closely examine the garden of every house they have lived in ?
They are pretty sure that Bellfield killed many more girls and young women than the ones he has been convicted of killing.
I cannot imagine the pain of parents never even having a body to bury.

Probably because there's absolutely nothing to suggest that bellfield would bury someone in his garden? What a waste of resources that would be.