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Sue Radford is pregnant....

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MadameFoner · 20/10/2019 20:21

Just seen a post on Facebook...

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Tweetingmagpie · 22/10/2019 21:48

My Nan has 7 and she had her last at 48, didn’t start the menopause til she was mid 50s!!

MyDcAreMarvel · 22/10/2019 21:50

Eggs do age and the quality declines with age but sue will still have more eggs to be released at 45 than most 45 year old women. So her chances of conceiving after this baby will be higher than a woman her age who has had 2/3 children.
That’s ridiculous no women runs out of eggs because you release one every month for years!

HelenaDove · 22/10/2019 21:50

So its possible she could go on having kids until she is 48 possibly 49.

HelenaDove · 22/10/2019 21:53

Tweeting a friiend of mine had to take a pregnancy test at 52

she didnt go through menopause until 55

ImJoxer · 22/10/2019 21:59

That’s ridiculous no women runs out of eggs because you release one every month for years!

I didn’t say anyone ran out of eggs! Confused

Rominiyi · 22/10/2019 22:06

@DeRigueurMortis In contemporary times if one is going to ensure one's children are consistently exposed to a wide range of quality extra-curricular activities and further, absolutely ensure their children get into highly selective grammar schools and top professional courses at Russell Group Universities in the very least, then one child constitutes a medium sized family, two children constitute a large family, everything else is insanity. And zero children constitute a small family.

This may not be true if you have millions and millions of pounds in the bank, which I certainly do not have, or this is not one's goal for their children. As I have discovered that parent's have different goals for their children, one of which may be to not stress their children out with such a packed schedule.

However, if you have ever been a qualified teacher and worked as a supply teacher in over a hundred comprehensive secondary schools and further, seen the horrendous and sometimes quite frankly "criminal" behaviour that goes on in nearly all those schools; then your motivations and self control are going to be uniquely different from someone who has never seen with their own eyes what truly goes on in government comprehensives.

Your motivation then becomes never to have a child who may be at risk of ending up in a government comprehensive. Further, you have the ability to help your child in the subjects you teach up to A-level.

DeRigueurMortis · 22/10/2019 22:21

Did you mean to tag me in that last post?

I'm somewhat baffled by the context in response to my post frankly...Confused

Dieu · 22/10/2019 22:48

There is absolutely no way that you can provide quality time, care, and emotional support to 20-odd children. It is simply not possible.

Rominiyi · 22/10/2019 23:18

@5zeds Well I am a teacher amongst other things, who did so much GCSE and A-level homework in maths and the sciences with my daughter, and taught her the many things she did not understand despite the fact that she was in the most selective girls grammar school in the country.

Not at all knocking the school. That school is truly, truly amazing and I still thank my good fortune she got in, and will praise the school every day of my life till I die, as I currently do.

All this took up a hell of time. However, my daughter started in first year medical school last month.

When she was younger we were driving her around to clarinet lessons, piano lessons, swimming lessons, latin lessons, ballet lessons, tap lessons, french lessons, tennis lessons, drama lessons, in order to find out which ones she would like. She eventually stuck to piano, clarinet, her orchestra, Latin, tap and ballet, which continued up to A level privately.

In addition to this she did Kumon Maths up to the eleven plus exams, Leaders are Readers English for Phonics when she was around around four/five, Swot Shop Tutors for the Eleven Plus, and had in addition two private tutors for the eleven plus.

I always remind my daughter that she has had a fantastic time, and she knows it. She is a happy, happy girl with several good friend's and cousins

Further, she went on so many school trips abroad and in the UK. They were not free. She was also in the school's orchestra, and did A-level music in addition.

I honestly wish I had had such a wonderfull time as a child. I did not do a fifth of what my daughter has done! In fact, my parent's were highly incompetent and irresponsible ...

How do you do all this with more than one child if you do not have millions of pounds in the bank is what I want to know?

Most obviously, organising all this was a logistical nightmare involving driving her around to all these places after school, and on Saturdays and Sundays!

Rominiyi · 22/10/2019 23:23

@DeRigueurMortis Sorry, that was a mistake.

Rominiyi · 22/10/2019 23:31

@5Zeds Well I am a teacher amongst other things, who did so much GCSE and A-level homework in maths and the sciences with my daughter, and taught her the many things she did not understand despite the fact that she was in the most selective girls grammar school in the country.

Not at all knocking the school. That school is truly, truly amazing and I still thank my good fortune she got in, and will praise the school every day of my life till I die, as I currently do every single day!

All this took up a hell of time. However, my daughter started in first year at medical school last month.

When she was younger we were driving her around to clarinet lessons, piano lessons, swimming lessons, latin lessons, ballet lessons, tap lessons, french lessons, tennis lessons, drama lessons, in order to find out which ones she would like. She eventually stuck to piano, clarinet, her orchestra, Latin, tap and ballet, which continued up to A level privately.

In addition to this she did Kumon Maths up to the eleven plus exams, Leaders are Readers English for Phonics when she was around around four/five, Swot Shop Tutors for the Eleven Plus, and had in addition two private tutors for the eleven plus.

I always remind my daughter that she has had a fantastic time, and she knows it. She is a happy, happy girl with several good friend's and cousins. I tell my daughter not to have more than one or two children depending on circumstances in the future, if she wants to have children.

Further, she went on so many school trips abroad and in the UK. They were not free. She was also in the school's orchestra, and did A-level music in addition.

I honestly wish I had had such a wonderfull time as a child. I did not do a fifth of what my daughter has done! In fact, my parent's were highly incompetent and irresponsible ...

How do you do all this with more than one child if you do not have millions of pounds in the bank is what I want to know?

Most obviously, organising all this was a logistical nightmare involving driving her around to all these places after school, and on Saturdays and Sundays!

ginyogarepeat · 22/10/2019 23:46

@MyDcAreMarvel you might want to google a thing called 'AMH level' Hmm

5zeds · 22/10/2019 23:52

Some of that I wouldn’t choose to do @Rominiyi what are you asking? Do you want some sort of clubs top trump competition? I can list all the things they’ve done over they years but it’s a bit weird.

MyDcAreMarvel · 22/10/2019 23:57

@ImJoxer you said she has more eggs to be released so a greater chance of conceiving. That is nonsense. You only release one occasionally two a month. So it’s irrelevant if she has released 180 less eggs than a woman who has only been pregnant for 18 months. Both women will have many eggs left over! You lack the basic understanding of fertility.

MyDcAreMarvel · 23/10/2019 00:02

I know what AMH levels are , like I said 180 eggs are neither here nor there. A woman of average fertility would still have many eggs left. Sue is no more fertile due to lack of releasing eggs.

Rominiyi · 23/10/2019 00:09

@5Zeds I am sorry If I've come across as boastful to you. That was not at all my intention.

However deep down within the core of me, having worked as a supply teacher in over a hundred schools and having been a private tutor in physics and chemistry to one GCSE student and three A-level students; this is what I think children need.

After all, we are asking them to do very difficult disciplines so that they can have a good life later on. And, if you intersparse that with a lot of sturctured downtime, they become highly responsive to their academic work, and they really do listen to what you say to them! That's what I've noticed over the years.

So please, please forgive me on that count!

5zeds · 23/10/2019 00:19

It’s not I think you’re boastful it’s that I don’t get your point??? You made a statement about what was possible with larger families and I simply stated that wasn’t the case.

Do you only know successful only children? How many of your daughters peers are only children?

Rominiyi · 23/10/2019 01:15

It's true that my daughter is an only child. However, if you look at my original post I said one or two. However, that will depend on how much money you have. After that it becomes impossible to help them all with their homework to a high standard.

Most of the children at my daughter's school were either only children or had one sibling. She has a close friend who is also studying Medicine who has two siblings, but that wonderful girl was the only one in her family to get into a grammar school. She is the firstborn.

Of my brothers and sister who have three children each, none of their children have gotten into to a grammar school.

Two of my second brother's children were doing extra curricular activities and, most importantly Kumon Maths when they were in primary school, however, when the third child arrived they dropped everything. I told him to use condoms. He said the condoms were too tight. That's how the third child arrived. Same for my first brother.

I was disappointed, hurt, furious, and my heart was being squeezed by what had happened to his children's Kumon maths. Their first son did very poorly at GCSE and hence, he did not do A-levels.The third child of my first brother did very poorly at GCSE and did not do A-Levels.

On my Ex's side their are two brothers in law who have three children each, none of who have gotten into a grammer school. One has done poorly at GCSE and is now doing an apprenticeship, I believe.

Their is one highly intelligent and very well off sister in America who has only one child, who is still young. However, she spends a fortune on his education all-round. And their is another sister in America with two children and one stepson, however I do not know what their situation is.

My parents are from a country where huge numbers of children do not go to school at at all due to rampant breeding. It is heartbreaking and truly soul destroying.

We cannot afford to let our children down, especially if you're educated. It is a crime!

HotSince82 · 23/10/2019 01:50

Rominiyi, hello I just wanted to reassure you that it is perfectly possible to gain entry to grammar school in the absence of Kumon maths.

Indeed, the most able will not require tutoring at all for the 11+, save their parents printing off a few past papers so that they are familiar with the format.

I would suggest that your hand wringing re your nephews isn't really warranted; they obviously weren't grammar school material, academically speaking.

Rominiyi · 23/10/2019 02:24

@5Zeds

It's true that my daughter is an only child. However, if you look at my original post I said one or two. That will depend on how much money you have. After that it becomes impossible to help them all with their homework to a high standard.

Most of the children at my daughter's school are either only children or have one sibling. She has a close friend who is also studying Medicine who has two siblings, but that wonderful girl was the only one in her family to get into a grammar school. She is the firstborn. The A-level and other requirements for some professional courses are so frightening and terror inducing for parents that some highly performing school is the only way to go.

Of my brothers and sister who have three children each, none of their children have gotten into to a grammar school.

Two of my second brother's children were doing extra curricular activities and, most importantly Kumon Maths when they were in primary school, however, when the third child arrived they dropped everything. I told him to use condoms. He said the condoms were too tight. That's how the third child arrived. Same for my first brother.

I was disappointed, hurt, furious, and my heart was being squeezed by what had happened to his children's Kumon maths. Their first son did very poorly at GCSE and hence, he did not do A-levels.The third child of my first brother did very poorly at GCSE and did not do A-Levels.

On my Ex's side their are two brothers in law who have three children each, none of who have gotten into a grammer school. The eldest has done poorly at GCSE and is now doing an apprenticeship, I believe.

Their is one highly intelligent and very well off sister in law in America who has only one child who is still young. However, she spends a fortune on his education all-round. And their is another sister in law in America with two children and one stepson, however I do not know what their situation is.

My parents are from a country where huge numbers of children do not go to school at at all due to rampant breeding. It is heartbreaking and truly soul destroying.

My dad is a chemical engineer and worked for a multinational company at a high level. He did not help any of the four of us with maths, physics and chemistry even just once. The three of us boys struggled greatly with these subjects. I was the only one to overcome the struggle with these subjects, with the help of a maths teacher at my secondrary school. My brothers did not pass maths and my older brother did not pass his A-levels. My sister was brilliant all round, and, I actually helped my sister with physics. My younger brother did not do A-levels.

My Dad went to produce two other children with a woman that already had four children, and move in with her when I was at university. I have not overcome the highly damaging trauma of the ensuing events till this day. Before that our house was in constant turmoil due to him being in one affair or the other, and my mum had no mothering instinct whatsoever. She was brutish.

How could a parent be so disconnected from the education of his children that they don't know anything about it, whatsoever, until the exam results arrive and the children do poorly. And, this is a parent who had the sheer knowledge and capacity to help, but could not give a fig.

Come to think of it, I could not spell my name at the age of seven, and my parents did not even know.

We cannot afford to let our children down, especially if we're educated. It is a heinous crime!

53rdWay · 23/10/2019 05:05

I was disappointed, hurt, furious, and my heart was being squeezed by what had happened to his children's Kumon maths.

In its own way, this is no less weird than the Radfords.

cardamoncoffee · 23/10/2019 06:55

@Rominiyi that post was hilarious, thank you for brightening my morning. Tell your brother that extra loose condoms (for the bigger boys) can be purchased in Home Bargains. Perish the very thought that a child may be banished from the blessed Kumon maths as he father is well endowed!

Horehound · 23/10/2019 07:09

Rominiyi is a strange poster!

DCIRozHuntley · 23/10/2019 07:10

This thread is absolutely brilliant. Some parents could afford Kumon maths (and XL condoms) but don't want to send their kids for more study on top of the 30+ hours they do weekly already. Hope that's not too heart squeezing!

Skinnychip · 23/10/2019 07:35

I think there is a happy medium or more standard situation that an only child who has done a million extra curricular activities and a child in a family of 20+ who might not have the chance to do any!!

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