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Why would you vote for another conservative government ?

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Katarinablum · 03/09/2019 16:25

Read some of the threads about voting choices in a forthcoming snap election. I'm no Corbyn supporter but was genuinely surprised that so many people were prepared to vote for the conservatives after the last 3 years of brexit ineptitude/duplicity and more specifically the last 10 of austerity.
As a mum of two I've seen cuts to educational provision, as a health care professional and as a patient experienced personally the huge pressures affecting the NHS due to government policies. I also live in an area with extremely high levels of chronic socioeconomic deprivation and underinvestment - the prosperity of the last few years seems to have passed us by and probably explains why the leave vote was so high here.
I would really be reluctant to vote for the tories as a result of what I've witnessed over the last few years and I presumed I wouldn't be alone. I'm now not so sure and suspect that a boris johnson government would win a huge majority. I'm genuinely fearful of this having seen the individuals that johnson has surrounded himself with - not exactly socially aware liberals, more likely libertarian mrs thatcher clones on speed. Don't think we can really expect much investment in public services despite the promises.
These threads got me thinking about what drives peoples voting intentions. Why would you vote for a party that has made such a mess of things ? I just don't get it. I've traditionally voted labour but I am open minded - in fact I've read alot about one nation conservatism which appealed to me. Surely our fundamental aspirations for the country aren't so radically different - doesn't everybody want the poorest and most vulnerable to be supported and enabled into living fulfilling lives, that prosperity is spread equally and public services not turned into cash cows for private companies etc so why carry on voting for a party whose policies have been so divisive and destructive ie
Windrush, brexit, universal credit ?

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halulat · 04/09/2019 18:55

So many people saying they don't like what the tories have done but can't stand Corbyn ( not a fan but the press really don't like him and do have huge influence). There are more than two parties though. Perhaps if people didn't just default to these two we wouldn't have either party thinking they can do what they like.

Deathgrip · 04/09/2019 19:22

Not a Corbyn fan, but interested to know on what basis he can be called ‘evil’. Also interested to know which Labour policies are ‘bonkers’. Can anyone assist?

Spoiler alert: they cannot

princesskatethefirst · 04/09/2019 19:58

Because of Corbyn.
Boris is better than Corbyn.
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Katarinablum · 04/09/2019 20:04

It’s the drip drip effect. The media repeatedly tell people something and eventually they’ll believe it ! I was quite intrigued by Corbyn back when he first became leader but it was impossible to find out anything about him - he seemed such a divisive character who caused much frothing at the mouths of daily telegraph types, what with all the accusations of being a terrorist sympathiser or heavens above, a Marxist. It’s still impossible to pinpoint reality from the fake news, adulation from momentum supporters and outright hostility from the establishment ! The policies in the manifesto actually seemed pretty sensible, far from being loony left but then you’ve got the issue of anti Semitism ...

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Deathgrip · 04/09/2019 21:23

Because of Corbyn. Boris is better than Corbyn.

Based on what? Have you watched any of the footage from the commons from the last 24-48 hours.

BJ isn’t better than anyone. At all. He is already setting records for being the worst PM in centuries.

scaryteacher · 05/09/2019 08:13

Katerina I bet B&B prices up my end of the county wouldn't be too bad. My house is about 25 minutes from Plymouth, and there are issues of deprivation.

Scifi Not wallowing at all. I have a car, so don't use the bus. I think Brexit in the long run will make things much better for the UK,, especially with the fault lines widening in Europe and the ECB out of ammunition for the coming economic problems.

Gilead · 05/09/2019 08:28

Boris was rattling on about ‘them’ changing our currency whilst in Parliament the day before yesterday. Another outrageous lie, along with the 350 bus, and other shite. How can he possibly be better than Corbyn?

SciFiRules · 06/09/2019 06:10

@Scaryteacher
Hang on, earlier you were stating that the South West had been ignored by the Government and that public transport was your prime example. When I point out that a village in Surrey has pretty much the same service your answer is " I have a car". Just what exactly is your point?

Why do you think that being outside of the EU and the support of the ECB makes the UKs position or that of the Bank of England's better? Larger blocks weather financial storms much better than isolated economies.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 06/09/2019 07:18

They seemed the only party willing to tackle the benefit culture. If we want a better future for our children we need to ensure personal responsibility is first and foremost.

Tax credits were one of the worst things ever introduced imo so voting for labour would never happen.

MustardScreams · 06/09/2019 07:51

Tackle the benefit culture? You mean by putting 4 million children into poverty? Yeah they did a great job there Hmm

PennyDreadfuI · 06/09/2019 08:03

Tories are the best choice for me

This, sadly, sums up a lot (though not all) of Tory voters. The 'I'm alright Jack' mentality.

I volunteer at a food bank, DH works in social housing (specifically with vulnerable people/benefits). Both of us have seen exactly what Tory policy has done to the most vulnerable people. Universal Credit and the bedroom tax are aimed directly at the poorest and those in low income families, and making their situation even worse.

The poster upthread who claimed Jeremy Corbyn heralds the death of women's rights - under Tory austerity, hundreds of women and children a DAY have been turned away from refuges due to cuts. Refuges and women's services have closed permanently. Cuts to other services and zero hour contracts (which Labour would ban) affect those in lower paid part time work (read: women) to a far greater extent than they do men.

I'm disappointed with Labour's weakness re Brexit, but there really is no other party that would ever get my vote. Let's not forget that the Lib Dems propped up a Tory government and its austerity measures - they've done a good job of reinventing themselves over Brexit but they're still, and always will be, yellow Tories.

PennyDreadfuI · 06/09/2019 08:06

benefit culture

Would this be the 'benefit culture' that makes people wait two months before they can get UC after they've been made redundant? Even if they have no savings (difficult to save when you're on minimum wage) and no redundancy package to speak of? People who have worked hard all their lives and never gone into debt find themselves having to rely on food banks and loans, and getting in rent arrears.

I'm not sure people who talk about 'benefit culture' really understand how the benefits system works.

PennyDreadfuI · 06/09/2019 08:12

And to all those who say 'Boris is better than Corbyn' -

You talk about anti semitism yet conveniently gloss over 'Boris' (why the cuddly first name terms, by the way?) using phrases like 'picaninnies', and likening women in hijabs to letterboxes. The man is a racist.

Also, you are voting for a government, not a PM. That's how it works, as has been proven by the fact we've just had two unelected PMs in a row. Do you really think that Tory austerity and their record of almost a decade is better than the alternative?

And there's the clincher that a vote for anyone else than Labour could mean Farage getting a sniff of power. If that's not enough to terrify you, I despair.

peppaporkysandwich · 06/09/2019 08:19

I would never vote conservative. In fact I once threw a leaflet
Back at some man dropping them through our door. I'm not voting for any party in the next ge.

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 06/09/2019 08:21

It baffles me daily. I think this last ten years of them in power has been appalling. I will vote tactically in my area to try to oust them although labour would usually get my tick.

Incandescentwithage · 06/09/2019 08:24

Because it's a democracy or so I thought

midsomermurderess · 06/09/2019 10:46

Why do so many of you keep,doing this 'Boris'.thing? If you can manage to type out 'Corbyn' can you not cope with Johnson? You just sound utterly ridiculous.

Kazzyhoward · 06/09/2019 10:55

Look at this before you decide who to vote for. Personally, I'm not voting for the standing candidate because he has voted against the will of his constituency.

Why would you vote for another conservative government ?
NavyBlueHue · 06/09/2019 10:55

I’m a floating voter with no allegiance other than who I think will do best at the time. I simply can’t vote for Corbyn so who the hell do I vote for? Who is the lesser of the evils?

PennyDreadfuI · 06/09/2019 11:05

Why do so many of you keep,doing this 'Boris'.thing? If you can manage to type out 'Corbyn' can you not cope with Johnson? You just sound utterly ridiculous

I'm with Johnny Marr on this one.

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