Why would you vote for another conservative government ?

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Read some of the threads about voting choices in a forthcoming snap election. I'm no Corbyn supporter but was genuinely surprised that so many people were prepared to vote for the conservatives after the last 3 years of brexit ineptitude/duplicity and more specifically the last 10 of austerity.
As a mum of two I've seen cuts to educational provision, as a health care professional and as a patient experienced personally the huge pressures affecting the NHS due to government policies. I also live in an area with extremely high levels of chronic socioeconomic deprivation and underinvestment - the prosperity of the last few years seems to have passed us by and probably explains why the leave vote was so high here.
I would really be reluctant to vote for the tories as a result of what I've witnessed over the last few years and I presumed I wouldn't be alone. I'm now not so sure and suspect that a boris johnson government would win a huge majority. I'm genuinely fearful of this having seen the individuals that johnson has surrounded himself with - not exactly socially aware liberals, more likely libertarian mrs thatcher clones on speed. Don't think we can really expect much investment in public services despite the promises.
These threads got me thinking about what drives peoples voting intentions. Why would you vote for a party that has made such a mess of things ? I just don't get it. I've traditionally voted labour but I am open minded - in fact I've read alot about one nation conservatism which appealed to me. Surely our fundamental aspirations for the country aren't so radically different - doesn't everybody want the poorest and most vulnerable to be supported and enabled into living fulfilling lives, that prosperity is spread equally and public services not turned into cash cows for private companies etc so why carry on voting for a party whose policies have been so divisive and destructive ie
Windrush, brexit, universal credit ?

@ChinookPilotsGoVertical what do you mean by a terrorist sympathiser?

When people use terms like this I wonder about their opinions on the militant suffragettes. Am I a terrorist sympathiser if I'd supported the Votes for Women (and specifically the WSPU) cause in the 1910s, for example? What about the people supporting Mandela?

The tories have done a great job turning people against Corbyn, posters here saying he's a terrorist sympathiser or Labour has messed up the economy... These claims are both untrue but people are convinced they are solid.

Can people provide sources about Corbyn being a terrorist sympathiser please? Instead of just regurgitating red top headlines as fact.

I suggest you look at the Labour record for the years before conservatives ( and the con/lib government) after all it was labour that left the note at the treasury that there was no money left, leading to the recent years of austerity. Do you want another labour government doing the same, led by a Marxist muppet?

Chloe I suggest you do what you’re suggesting ofhers do.

Labour were not the architects of the global financial crisis.

A Marxist muppet??
Do you realise comment's like this makes you look ridiculous?

Because no one wants the loony left in power?

Yes, the Tories are the least worst option.

Because a lot of them wouldn't vote for Corbyn.

Because I can't bear Corbyn, his sort of socialism (communism) or his cronies and he is a weak leader.

I believe in a meritocracy not one where I have to share my hard earned cash with those who can't be arsed to work and breed as if they are entitled to without putting something back in the system

I think a lot of people vote Tory because they always have, and so did their parents, and their social group. Add to that the fact that Labour don't seem to know what they stand for anymore, and there's your answer.

The media have done an excellent job of demonising Corbyn, but equally he hasn't helped himself and neither have his party by being so unclear and divided about their values. I'm genuinely not sure what Labour means now.

I do find it baffling though, that people are so afraid of the possibility of Corbyn that they would vote for the proven Tory shit storm AGAIN. It just doesn't stack up

I would much rather vote Labour with Corby as leader - given he is one man who I don’t particularly like - over an entire party who have monumentally fucked it over the last few years.

Also, do people who call Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser realise that the UK has been arming Saudi to bomb civilians? Directly implicating Boris Johnson and senior conservatives in illegal arms deals. I mean - is that really better??

When people say ‘anything but Corbyn’ I just think REALLY?!?! ANYTHING?!? THIS??!!!?

Chloe, every chancellor leaves that note, it’s a long standing joke. The years of Austerity are Tory guided, as usual ye rich get rich and the poor get poorer.

Agree.
What do the anything but Corbyn brigade think of Jacob Rees Mogg lounging across 3 seats in Parliament tonight? Is he acceptable then?

Daffodilbrain; there is a difference between socialism and communism. Corbyn knows the difference, you obviously don’t.

Gilead, daffodilbrain lost me at 'breed'. That word is used with utter contempt on here and with a certain type of voter.
It speaks volumes about the person using it.

Do people really still believe the crap that labour over spent and the tories have come in with their austerity bollocks to clear up the mess?

It’s unbelievable, I’m wondering how they are going to blame labour for this shit show that is happening now

Every interview from the houses of Parliament that featured a tory MP had a mention of Corbyn in them
Every one has been told, don't answer the question, just bring up Corbyn name and make people scared

It's pathetic. They would blame him for WW1 if they could.

Tories have presided over foolish referendum, terrible execution of referendum result (the ‘red lines’ which created an unsolvable problem and the three year shitshow that has followed) and a decade of austerity which has seen public services decline to a sorry state (schools, NHS, care for the elderly, local services ...) all while cutting taxes for the better off (inc. me, as it happens). How anyone would vote for more of that is beyond me too.

Some great answers here. Particularly agreed with the concept of the aspirational working class Tory voter. The ones who at one time would have benefited from trade union representation for example but now see working class culture as below them - I’ve heard so many talk about labour with such disdain yet they fail to recognise the positive impact of labour policies and actively ignore divisive Tory ones ie loss of legal aid.
I’ve also noticed that maybe people are not as socially altruistic as others. They vote purely for their own interests and to maintain the status quo which explains the existence of the so called ‘shy Tory’, too embarrassed to publically declare this.
They must know that the increasing existence of food banks is scandalous, that the poorest and most vulnerable are genuinely suffering with benefit cuts but they chose to turn the other way and kid themselves that there’s no other alternative

Increase of food banks is not just a UK problem though - see here:
www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2019/08/30/record-number-of-belgians-asking-help-from-food-banks/

They vote purely for their own interests and to maintain the status quo Why did so many vote for Brexit then?

@daffodilbrain What would happen to you if you weren't able to work and have any "hard earned cash?"

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Wow.

Indy ref 2 cannot come quick enough.

There's really no point engaging with posters like daffodilbrain. I'm not being obtuse, but posters with that mentality seldom have the ability to walk in someone else's shoes. They see their lot in life as a given, as something they have worked hard for and deserved. And their definition of hard work and deserving of something is usually different to mine. The notion of not being able to work, not having money put by for a rainy day, not planning for the future is abhorrent to them. Seeing your plans go up in smoke, losing your job and having no where to turn, having a health crisis which leaves you floored... ALL WITH NO FANANCIAL BACK UP.... Or means to have access to financial back up... Won't happen.

There is a very good cartoon explaining this. I'll see if I can find it.