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I am having second thoughts about my wasp pub

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Sparklingbrook · 26/08/2019 12:53

I bought a wasp pub as we have loads of wasps at the moment and I wanted to be able to eat outside without getting plagued.

I have set it up and we have our first victim trapped. But now I am feeling sorry for it because it can't get out! seems a bit cruel. Sad

DS and DH think it's great but eating your lunch watching insects die isn't going to be fun is it?

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WorraLiberty · 26/08/2019 14:00

Why are you killing wasps outside in their own environment just so you can eat out there??

The environment needs wasps.

Branleuse · 26/08/2019 14:03

I think its a bad idea and as you are already seeing its cruel.

Wasps are just as important to our ecosystem as bees, so if youre going out of your way to be friendly to the poor old bees, wasps are just as important as pollinators

I recently saw this on facebook

*You're having a few drinks in the garden with your friends, or a family BBQ, when a load of pesky wasps arrive to spoil the party. You haven't seen them all summer and then suddenly they're all over the place, annoying everybody, causing panic and helicopter hands. Sound familiar?

August is the time of year when people start to ask 'what's the point of wasps?' The answer may surprise you.

Did you know that there are approximately 9,000 species of wasp here in the UK? These include the parasitic wasps, some of which are so diminutive they are like pin heads. Of the 250 larger wasps which have have a stinger, the majority are solitary and cause no upset to humans.

However, when we talk about wasps, we're almost certainly referring to the our nation's nemesis, the Common wasp (Vespula vulgaris). To understand why these wasps become really annoying this time of year, you first need to understand their life cycle.

Common wasps live socially like bees but, unlike honey bees, they haven't evolved a way of storing food to allow the colony to survive the winter. In fact the only survivors are the young, fertilised queens who hibernate over winter. They emerge in the spring to build little walnut sized nests where they they lay around 20 eggs.

The queen feeds the resulting larvae until around May, when they mature and become workers. Then she focuses on more egg-laying and the workers get on with feeding them, enlarging the nest as they go along. By this time of year the nest has grown to around 40cm in diameter, often larger, and that nest can contains up to 10,000 wasps!

Then, in late August and September, a dramatic change takes place. The queen quits her egg laying (save a few that will go on to be future queens and males to fertilise them) and no longer releases the pheromone that causes the workers to work.

Basically, these workers are made redundant, and are left jobless and disorientated. And the problem for us is that, although adult wasps are insect predators, that meat is to feed the larvae not themselves. In their adult state wasps are not able to digest solid food and need sugary liquid to survive. Now, with fewer no larvae to feed, they become uncontrollably and insatiably hungry.

Wasps love easy food such as over ripe fruit and your fizzy drinks. Towards the end of their brief lives, their hunger drives them to search for easy sugar at exactly the time when we are more likely to be using our gardens and outdoor spaces for eating sweet things. The timing couldn't be better for them or worse for us.

So why are those who panic and try to swat them away more likely to be stung than those who remain calm?

Well the problem is that these redundant workers have their own pheromone, which helps protect the nest from attack earlier in the year, and that's essentially a chemical rallying cry to other workers that the nest is under attack.

So when you swat that annoying wasp and it feels under attack, that rallying cry will go out. Suddenly it all kicks off, and loads more wasps will start arriving in aggressive 'red-mist' mode, fired up and ready to defend their nest. This is why the best advice is to stay calm.

Think of it this way, from May that wasp has been working its socks off helping to keep things nice on planet earth. Now it’s going to die. So why not give it a break, save your swats, put a bowl of sugary drink somewhere out of your way, and let it go out on a nice sugar rush :-) At the very least don't kill it.

What's the point of wasps? Without them it’s likely that human life would not survive because, in the absence of their role as predators, our planet would be overrun by even more damaging insects such as aphids, ants and caterpillars.

Please feel free to share with others x*

KatherineJaneway · 26/08/2019 14:05

Just stick a saucer with a few teaspoons of jam in the corner of your garden, job done.

velocitygirl7 · 26/08/2019 14:07

@Branleuse has extensively summed up my feelings.
Well worth sharing that post on social media as most people seem to think wasps are 'pointless' but that's very far from the truth!

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 26/08/2019 14:08

OP - you do know when you kill one, it's mates come looking for you? Wink

CatteStreet · 26/08/2019 14:14

We hang several Waspinators (fake wasps' nests as per a PP) around the house and garden every year (not too close together). I don't actually know if they work (reviews are very mixed) but wasps have been at very tolerable levels all the three summers we've done it.

CatteStreet · 26/08/2019 14:15

Outside of the house, not inside!

Fresta · 26/08/2019 14:15

Wasps are equally as important for the environment as bees- they do the same job- pollinating our plants, crops, and trees. Apparently they also keep the numbers of plant pests down like greenies and whiteflies etc. I know they are annoying but they rarely sting and I wouldn't be killing them unnecessarily.

Sparklingbrook · 26/08/2019 14:20

Why are you killing wasps outside in their own environment just so you can eat out there??

Erm because on the very few days in the Uk when it's possible to eat outside I like to do so without batting wasps away all the time and them landing on my food or stinging me. I don't think that's unreasonable TBH.

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Derbee · 26/08/2019 14:24

I think this is cruel and unnecessary.

TSSDNCOP · 26/08/2019 14:25

Well, every day is a school day. Who knew the stingy little bastards did some good. Doesn’t that article advocate a sugary demise given the male wasp’s job is now done, or am I reading it incorrectly.

Sparklingbrook · 26/08/2019 14:25

Well there's still only the two in there so it's not really effective either!

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Branleuse · 26/08/2019 14:27

are you getting stung a lot then?

I mean, ive probably been stung 3 or 4 times in my life, and it hurt for a couple of hours or i needed an antihistamine, but its hardly a big deal.
I think people go completely over the top about the threat from insects in general.
Swatting one thats really hassling you is one thing, but trying to attract and exterminate all the local wasps in your area is harmful

TSSDNCOP · 26/08/2019 14:27

Well done wasp murdererSparkling, you’ve got the county’s teetotal wasps in your garden 🤣

TSSDNCOP · 26/08/2019 14:28

Total fail there with cross through and bold Confused

ThePolishWombat · 26/08/2019 14:30

Ooo I want one!!
We’ve always done the plastic bottle cut in half, and put the top half upside down in the bottom half - sounds like it does the same job. They can get in but can’t get out.

My son is allergic to wasp stings.
So if it comes down to my son or the wasps, I’m afraid the wasps can go for a sugary swim in the bottle!

WorraLiberty · 26/08/2019 14:30

Erm because on the very few days in the Uk when it's possible to eat outside I like to do so without batting wasps away all the time and them landing on my food or stinging me. I don't think that's unreasonable TBH.

You don't think it's unreasonable to start killing wasps that are essential to our environment, just so you can eat a bit of food outside in their environment?

Words actually fail me.

Flower777 · 26/08/2019 14:31

In my experience the fake wasps nests work!

We were having lunch outside and had a couple of wasps hanging around. Then we got dessert out - which included some strawberries with some sugar on so very sweet and we hung up the wasps nest and we didn’t get bothered at all!

FredaFox · 26/08/2019 14:31

Do they do blue bottle pubs? I'm at my mum's and I've ushered 3 outside and hoovered 2, now every door and window is shut and there's still another one buzzing round

Sparklingbrook · 26/08/2019 14:32

I have been stung in the past, by many things. I was only trying to capture the ones that are going to potentially spoil my meal, not send a wasp Whatsapp out to tell them all to visit (which as I have just 2 doesn't seem to have happened anyway).

I have been called many things on MN over the years so will add wasp murderer to the list TSSDNCOP.

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DontCallMeShitley · 26/08/2019 14:34

I don't mind wasps, they happily settle on me knowing I won't hurt them.

I just blow on them hard enough for them to fly away. They are a pest if you have food or drink though. However they are pollinators and we need those.

I don't kill them.

Sparklingbrook · 26/08/2019 14:36

Words actually fail me.

Bit dramatic Worra. Come next weekend the garden furniture will probably be under wraps for another year and the winter coats will be out!
My garden is my escape where I go to relax and on the days that I can do that I want to make the most of it. Sorry about that.

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WorraLiberty · 26/08/2019 14:41

It's not dramatic at all

Part of being an adult outdoors is accepting you'll find nature out there Confused

There's really no need to start killing wasps so you can 'relax and enjoy' the garden they live in.

Sparklingbrook · 26/08/2019 14:43

There's plenty of nature here I promise you. All of it more pleasant than wasps in your dinner.

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