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"I'd die for my kids"

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Subculture · 23/08/2019 19:47

I think it's a phrase most of us have heard but how many actually mean it?

Obviously many cannot afford to take the cut of a day's pay but many can. Many aren't working but won't attend a demonstration.

How many of you are going to strike on September 20th and if not, what is your reason?

The Amazon is burning, the arctic is burning, many face droughts and famine. We are outraged that Harry and family fly because of the effect on climate change, what are you prepared to do?

For more information globalclimatestrike.net/

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Bunnybigears · 23/08/2019 19:51

I would die for my kids but losing a days pay to virtue signal isnt thensame thing at all.

AmIThough · 23/08/2019 19:54

I would throw myself in front of a bus for my little girl but that's very different to a protest about climate change...

Rubicon80 · 23/08/2019 19:58

God I can't bear people who try to trick you into their agenda, whatever it is, with an irrelevant and misleading 'headline'. Fucking clickbait bollocks. Go and lecture someone else.

Baguetteaboutit · 23/08/2019 20:03

Fuck me. Hmm I'm not even unsympathetic to your concerns but that level of emotional blackmail makes me want to put the heating on.

nespressowoo · 23/08/2019 20:03

What @Rubicon80 said.

I would absolutely die for my son but I can't afford to lose a day's pay to attend some strike that won't make a blind bit of difference.

mumguiltrearingitshead · 23/08/2019 20:04

Oh do fuck off. You realise people could be sacked for taking a day off - not just lose a days pay?

tinkerchats · 23/08/2019 20:07
Biscuit
AnyFucker · 23/08/2019 20:08

Bog off

Gingerkittykat · 23/08/2019 20:09

Possibly people think protests are a waste of time and would rather do something concrete like changing their behaviour.

clucky3 · 23/08/2019 20:14

@Rubicon80 has covered my response there

larrygrylls · 23/08/2019 20:16

Subculture,

What do you think a 1 day strike would achieve? The UK is the most successful industrial country in the world at combating climate change.

It always comes down to the same things. Easy to virtue signal, hard to give up what we all take for granted. Did you type your OP on a smartphone? Prepared to give it up or not upgrade?

Personally I think the solution is through hard work and innovation (I.e not taking a day off!) and not a return to the Stone Age.

And what everyone else said about infantile emotional blackmail.

tomtom1999xx · 23/08/2019 20:23

Op. Even if every single person in the UK became 100% environmentally friendly we’re still fucked. Have you seen how much crap China & the United States produce?
& I can’t see them changing anytime soon.

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Subculture · 23/08/2019 20:30

The causes and effects of climate change were being largely ignored a year ago. The protests of XR since then have foced the media to cover the issue, they have forced politicians to think about it but there is so much further to go.

As for the UK being successful in tackling climate change, all we have been successful in is exporting our emissions.

Climate change is affecting the life chances of our children. It may not be a case of jumping in front of a bus to protect them but I'd like mine to reach my age and well beyond, the first target is another 30 years and the way things are going I'm not optimistic. So I'm not going to sit on my arse, I'm getting out there and supporting all those kids who are striking on Fridays.

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tomtom1999xx · 23/08/2019 20:32

I admire you op I really do. You’re right, someone has to make a stand, but honestly, at the moment people here are more concerned about brexit.

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Subculture · 23/08/2019 20:33

Tomtom, have you explained that to your kids?

"You are going to die well before your time, and between now and then it's not going to be what you had dreamed of. But I don't want to give up a day's pay, I don't see why I should force my government to take action to at least mitigate the situation because there is no point. No, let's just carry on as we are and you can suffer the consequences"

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Subculture · 23/08/2019 20:36

There's no point in worrying about Brexit, either way Europe is screwed. Climate change will result in mass migration over the next couple of decades and the huge influx into Europe will cause the collapse of the EU.

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zen1 · 23/08/2019 20:38

I think the antibiotics crisis will affect future generations before climate change does.

tomtom1999xx · 23/08/2019 20:38

Thank you for the link op.
I am very worried about climate change but often feel that anything I do is more or less meaningless. I know I shouldn’t feel that way.
I do talk to my children about their future and what we’re doing to the planet. I just feel so helpless.

ScreamingValenta · 23/08/2019 20:39

Humans are destroying the planet. I can understand why some people want humans to survive as a species, but unless people are prepared radically to change their lifestyles - i.e. go back to a more primitive, pre-industrial style of living, then your choice is humans vs earth. I haven't and won't create any more humans to destroy the planet, so I don't feel a need to protest - we can and must all make our own choice about what we want the long term future to be, and I don't think protests serve any useful purpose.

larrygrylls · 23/08/2019 20:43

Subculture,

Which rational climate change prediction are you basing the idea that any of our children’s lifespans will be shortened by climate change?

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Subculture · 23/08/2019 20:46

XR's first demand is for governments to tell the truth, they currently aren't so if the general public are unaware of the situation we find ourselves in, they cannot make informed choices. One obvious choice is whther to have children or not. If the government told the truth, many would choose not to have children, consequently failure to force the government to tell the truth will result in the suffering and premature death of many people who have not yet been conceived never mind those who are already alive.

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Belgravian · 23/08/2019 20:50

Climate change/global warming = load of cobblers.

ScreamingValenta · 23/08/2019 20:50

if the general public are unaware of the situation we find ourselves in, they cannot make informed choices. One obvious choice is whther to have children or not

But we don't need a government to tell us that, at the most fundamental level, the damage to our planet is man-made.

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Subculture · 23/08/2019 20:52

Larrygrylls, think through the logic. We are entering environmental collapse, soil is being eroded because of farming practices and abnormal weather, the same weather is causing crop failures, food shortages are inevitable. Economies across the world are heading towards recession and that will soon become collapse. The result will be poverty and where you have poverty you have a reduction in life expectancy. Disease will become rife with no drugs manufactured to tackle them.

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lucylouis · 23/08/2019 20:54

There were protests about the climate in Bristol recently. They were blocking the roads to the hospitals. Because of this, a man missed his dying dads last breath. A baby was born in a car, luckily was fine but could of had a very different outcome. And a man actually died in the back of an ambulance. So you can go fuck yourselves with your "peaceful" protests