stuck at PILs, send help. Losing will to live.

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So far this morning we've had:

1. Why Brexit is a great thing.
2. Why Europe hates us.
3. Why all social problems are down to "the ethnics".
4. Why education isn't really that important for girls.
5. Why Donald Trump actually has a lot of good ideas.

We're here until this time tomorrow. I'll be a quivering wreck by then.

In-law (mainly FIL) topics of the past fews weeks include:

1. Vegetarianism/veganism isn't actually good for the world, 'it's just social media'.

1. Why immigrants are the worst thing in the universe.

1. Why women are responsible for all wars.

1. Donald Trump is a god.

1. Diesel cars are great for the environment and it's all a con.

1. It doesn't matter if women go bankrupt because they can just go and marry a rich man.

My god, do we have the same in-laws?! The drive me INSANE with the shite they trollop out.

Not unless you're a 54 year old man called Steve.

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Orangepancakes Why women are responsible for all wars.
Wow, I'd love to hear this - this sounds bloody priceless! Can you precis it for me?

Why don't you call them out on it? Otherwise you're sort of complicit... My elderly relatives can be like this but I shut it down. If they're offended, who cares? I won't listen to racism/classism/homophobia.

I'd think you were with my in laws but they use the term "The Ethnics".

Mine just outright use "Darkies"

Ffs.

I felt slightly like this with my own family this weekend, which was upsetting. We had 'young people don't work hard these days', 'if you can't hack the job you should leave it to someone who can' and 'well Trump just says what everyone is thinking'.

The one that actually upset me a little was my aunt and cousin talking about how they eat meat but it's ok because they get it from a really nice butchers. I'm vegan. I think I strained my smiling and nodding muscles. My cousin also tried the old "Well what WOULD happen if we just released all the animals?" line, but I shot that down quite quickly with logic, which was very satisfying

We are leaving now, thankfully. I love them, but yeesh. I'm also half effnic, which I'm sure doesn't help!!

FIL was like this last time he visited. We are avoiding inviting them again.

Oh we do call them out on it but then you get the "well you're just young and politically correct, you haven't seen how these people live in their home countries, I have. I have more life experience than you, you are just trying to be PC because it's not acceptable any more to say it how it is".

FIL travelled with work in the 1960s. His attitudes are still firmly stuck there. Oh and besides he can't possibly be racist because he likes Chinese people. They are polite, apparently. Scottish people are aggressive yet simultaneously lazy, Welsh people are odd, French people are rude, doesn't like Germans because of a bad experience in Hamburg in 1965, Maltese people OK because they speak English, outside Europe don't even go there because they're all the same. Except the Chinese.

He was told firmly a couple of years ago to stop using the n-word when talking about the doctor who had moved in round the corner or we would not be bringing our children back. So he doesn't. But I can tell he's thinking it, if you know what I mean.

Just awful. DH and his sister are fairly reasonable though.

Oh yeah and vegetarians are just attention seeking.

Doesn't see why the aforementioned Steve (who is veggie), wouldn't be happy to bung his quorn sausages on the same bbq as his cheap nasty sausages. Asking to cook them separately on the stove is out of the question, attnention-seeking drama queen behaviour.

Daily Mail online is worse for them to read because all the poisonous below the line comments also seep into their brains.

I find it really hard to deal with my parents now because of this. They are either angry or scared about everything. You can see the effects wear off, then they take another hit and off they go again.

Feel your pain, OP.

I know my inlaws can't also be your inlaws because if they were you'd have added "the Irish are all just a load of terrorists" and "what difference does it make if there's a hard border?".

Last time we stayed there I stormed out in a rage.

This sounds like my dads fiancee. We will fall out soon regarding her fb posts.

Why don't you just block her? I got very sick of seeing pathetic comments re a rival football team from a mate. She was slagging off the entire town (where my dad's from, we're all from another town). I wrote a comment on FB saying anymore pathetic discriminatory comments will result in me removing the offenders from my FB. She stopped.

Oh good lord. Sometimes it's actually scary to know what people are thinking. In the U.S. prior to the new president, people used to at least keep their deranged views to themselves, assuming others would view them as, well, deranged. Now they have a president that represents them and all of a sudden they are coming out of the woodwork and banding together! It's frightening. Thank goodness you get to leave tomorrow.....

"the Irish are all just a load of terrorists" TBH he probably thinks that too. Anyone who isn't white, middle aged, a native speaker of English and born within 20 miles of there PIL were born is to be treated with the utmost suspicion.

As an 'ethnic', this thread makes for painful reading :(

Onalongsabbatical Something about women not contributing anything to the economy, having millions of babies, forcing poor men to work because of their drive to have children.. ultimately women are responsible for overpopulation and competition for resources, eventually causing war. I stopped listening and went upstairs after a while.

I've have many arguments with him but he's far too superior to listen!

He's also very against maternity leave/pay and feminism.. eugh! Pathetic man

I hear you Oyoyoy - I'm Scottish and that doesn't stop PIL pontificating that Scottish people are lazy and aggressive.

Sounds much like my in laws who are sadly only round the corner. MIL worships Nigel Farage. But I’ve come to realise trying to reason with them pointless.

My FIL asked me last week if my kids had ever been 'exposed to homosexuals'. Homosexuality is just a cover for sexual deviancy and lesbians don't actually exist, it's just a load of nonsense and bored women looking for attention. I got up and left the room, went for a walk.

He's 95 and regularly uses all sorts of racist, homophobic language. I hate him and think being exposed to him would be way more damaging for my kids. Luckily they think he's really dull and stay out of his way.

oyoyoy as an Irish person, it is depressing reading for me, that people still think we are all IRA.

Sounds like my ILs as well.

If it wasn't for family bbq thing I'd have asked in you were my soon to be SIL......

Hailey I so wish my dad had kept his opinions to himself before Trump was elected. No such luck.

was reading comments in newspaper a while back - "Islam is a middle eastern religion & doesn't belong here in UK"
I pointed out that Jesus & Christianity originated in the Middle East not Britain therefore it too was a Middle Eastern religion ….