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You'd think Trump or someone would offer Melania a hand here...

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BlackberryBeret · 05/06/2019 11:41

That's a hell of a step down without a hand rail, in sky high heels onto uneven grass...

I'd have been scared my ankle would go over. Someone should have helped her.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 05/06/2019 19:00

S’cuse me - DS is 14 and wouldn’t spout such disrespectful nonsense.

Sparklingfairylights · 05/06/2019 19:04

Lord I was grasping at straws as to why somebody would be so totally ignorant and disrespectful, I too have teenage children who would never dream of saying such things. I'm hoping the two posters are watching some of the news coverage and feeling suitably ashamed of their dreadful comments.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 05/06/2019 19:05

Just being provocative and ‘ooo errrr edgy’. No empathy or compassion.

VeniVidiViciTwice · 05/06/2019 19:33

@Soola 😂🤣

irisheyesaresmiling7 · 05/06/2019 19:37

Following on from my post at lunchtime today I still hope D-Day will be remembered for many, many more years to come!

My dad was 19 years old when he landed on Sword Beach on D-Day... 19!!!
Nothing more than a boy!
I look at my 19 year old son and my heart breaks for my grandparents knowing that their only son may never return alive!

Fortunately for me my dad did return home twice, the first time he was shot, the second and final time with life changing injuries and memories than affected him until his death a few years ago.
He saw his best friend killed in front of him!

My aunt still talks about my grandparents kneeling and praying on the kitchen floor for hours on end praying for his safe return, watching for the postman and dreading a telegram arriving with the news that no one ever wanted to get!

It took many years after he returned for him to find love and marry my mum so consequently he was a much older dad which I actually loved until the fact that he died when I was still quite young with very young children.

Then you come across posters like @NotNowMrTumnus and @dinosaurgrrrr who have not one ounce of respect, manners or decency to realise if these brave men and women hadn't fought, helped, etc in these battles we would never live the life we do today.

I always remember my dad with love, respect and admiration, he was, still is and always will be my hero!

Lest We Forget!

Sparklingfairylights · 05/06/2019 19:44

Irisheyes what an incredible story, so much bravery and sacrifice that is unimaginable to most of us today. I've watched the coverage all day and it's so humbling and moving. Try not to let the tiny minority of detractors detail Smile

Sparklingfairylights · 05/06/2019 19:45

Derail even!

AlexaAmbidextra · 05/06/2019 19:54

irisheyes. Your post has brought tears to my eyes. When I looked at my Dad, old and frail, having seen photos of him as a young man, some in army uniform, I was so proud of him. To think that he had been sent to foreign lands aged only eighteen to fight for his country. He was one of the lucky ones who came home when hundreds of thousands didn’t. He saw awful things and must at times have been so scared. They went as boys and came back as men.

So when I see those two posters on here who are so disrespectful and dismissive of the sacrifices these men made, I feel so angry at their complete lack of empathy and respect. And yes, men died so these people would have the freedom to express their ignorant and unpleasant views.

ladymariner · 05/06/2019 20:12

tumnus and dinosaur fuck off. Just fuck off. I was going to be do much more eloquent but why when you don't deserve it.
irisheyes and alexa your stories have brought tears to my eyes.
My darling Dad was in a POW camp from 1941-45, he was 16 when his boat was shelled and he was sent there. He was and always will be my hero.
Lest we forget x

JamesBlonde1 · 05/06/2019 20:16

My DH would have stayed closer and assisted.

Melania looks freaking amazing. Her clothing choices are perfect.

howwudufeel · 05/06/2019 20:17

I worry we are evolving backwards when I read dinosaurgrr’s posts.

JamesBlonde1 · 05/06/2019 20:20

Dinosaur. Please go and live with the people you want to help. The rest of us will carry on celebrating our war heroes in the manner in which they deserve.

May God have helped us if the lads had attitudes like yours during the war.

Doughstrips · 05/06/2019 20:24

I think it's important that we honour those and keep doing so. It's a huge part of the UK history, that should never be forgotten and the losses that happened were huge and affected so many. However I do find the proclamation that was signed by the 16 countries today a bit of a joke, commiting to defend the freedoms of peace, democracy, tolerance and the rule of law globally, as its a lie.

dinosaurgrrrr · 05/06/2019 20:43

I have not once said that I don't respect the people who fought for this country. What I have a problem with is the world's 'leaders' pretending to give a shit today about those events in the past when they wouldn't hesitate in sending young people to fight battles on their behalf and die today if they felt the need. Or bombing countries such as Syria. It's so hypocritical it's outrageous. I can't stand things like Sheridan Smith singing either- how does singing jolly outdated songs serve anything other than create sentimentality about a time in history when people were sent and generally forced to die and be blown to bits on someone else's behalf?

I think things haven't moved on. Not to detract from what they did but it is a very long time ago now. Would you still expect it still to be commentated 200 years from now for instance when we are long gone too? What good do all the medals and ceremony actually do other than whitewash the realities of D-Day? Rather than focus on the past we need to have a good look at the mess this world is in today and focus on that.

Those of you who feel the need to jump on anyone who says they can't watch that hypocritical display I saw on the lunchtime news for the full half hour today are missing the point. No one has been disrespectful here- telling people to fuck off or suggesting they watch 'love island' because they don't see the purpose in continuing ceremonies featuring people like Trump once the last veterans have passed suggests you are quite hard of thinking. I can understand still holding the ceremonies if they are appreciated by the remaining veterans. Once they have passed however they serve only to be self-serving and to glorify the hideous realities of war.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 05/06/2019 20:47

I am being unreasonable, but I do think they need to give it a rest. It’s been 75 years. Let it go. This sort of thing doesn’t help with the divisions in this country. Say “thanks guys” one last time and move on.

Fuck off.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 05/06/2019 20:51

I think we need to start living in modern times and not keep living in the past.

Yes, we are lucky to be living. Go to any of the cemeteries in Normandy and see for yourself the thousand of crosses for the soldiers who died there.

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dinosaurgrrrr · 05/06/2019 21:01

Right whatever, missing my points deliberately, carry on talking about Melania's clothes and heels and whatever tripe this thread started with. It's quite ironic the veterans were only mentioned midway through the thread by those who claim to care once someone questioned the purpose of the ceremony.

DeadDoorpost · 05/06/2019 21:02

He's stood so far away from her. DH would have offered his hand as soon as he stepped out, unless he let me go first.

There is a handrail though that she's holding onto, but I've seen her refuse his help anyway before.

dinosaurgrrrr · 05/06/2019 21:05

And yes I have been to the cemeteries in Normandy. They are very moving. More so than that hypocritical display I saw this morning.

Genderwitched · 05/06/2019 21:17

Well maybe the politicians and world leaders are hypocritical, they probably are, possibly most of them were thinking of something else, who knows.

But these remembrance ceremonies mean an awful lot to very many people, it's all still a vivid memory to many people.You only have to look at the anger on this thread. You could show more respect to them in my opinion.

dinosaurgrrrr · 05/06/2019 21:41

It's hard to respect anyone who immediately tell others to 'fuck off' or don't read what others have actually written and impose their own agenda on it? A lot of what has been said seems like virtue signaling and adopting a blinkered self-serving holier than thou attitude. Knowing a veteran doesn't give anyone a monopoly on how others should think or feel about the ceremonies.

Genderwitched · 05/06/2019 21:47

A lot of what has been said seems like virtue signaling and adopting a blinkered self-serving holier than thou attitude

You've actually typed that with a straight face.

dinosaurgrrrr · 05/06/2019 21:50

And? What's your point?