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Help me explain non-binary to my mum

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MyGastIsFlabbered · 03/06/2019 22:01

Someone we know had come out as non-binary. The who doesn't matter. My mum can not get her head round this and keeps asking me what the difference between being non-binary and being bisexual is. It doesn't matter how many times I tell her the two things aren't related, she still doesn't get it. I'm not saying I have the best understanding but she's driving me slowly insane.

Can anyone help explain in words of one syllable or less why the two things aren't connected?

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Alconleigh · 04/06/2019 17:56

Yes it's attention seeking nonsense from people who don't understand that we are all non binary, on account of being people, not a collection of sexist stereotypes. Personality, we used to call it.

tierraJ · 04/06/2019 19:21

Is the enby person a they too? As in not a he / she?

They is an enby.

tierraJ · 04/06/2019 19:32

Just googled enby & apparently you can't just call a non binary person an enby, they like to be asked first or they could be offended by the word enby!

And there's actually a non binary flag! You can order it off amazon. Here it is!

Well you learn something new every day & today I learned about non binary. I read a blog post by a enby & I feel a bit bad saying that they did look like a woman which they originally was despite trying their best to look non binary & different but never mind.

Help me explain non-binary to my mum
MyGastIsFlabbered · 04/06/2019 19:47

It's a pretty flag though

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tierraJ · 04/06/2019 20:48

It is.

princessjelly · 04/06/2019 21:17

I am actually curious to know if anyone believes this themselves?

JaneJeffer · 04/06/2019 21:58

That flag is too busy for my taste. I wonder what the colours represent.

LadyOfTheCanyon · 04/06/2019 23:07

The purple on the flag is definitely representing Speggs

mouldyhousemouldylife · 05/06/2019 01:02

It's hard to explain something that's pure crap.

ScottishDoll · 05/06/2019 01:19

OP I like the sounds of your mum, I agree the short version would be best!

There is no explaining someone else's constantly evolving invented fantasy life and the reasoning behind it, why try?

Mxyzptlk · 05/06/2019 01:43

It's a while since this thread started - how is your mum getting on with the idea of non-binary?

Is your mum a completely stereotypical female person? If not, tell her that makes her non-binary, like most people, but that the person in question has decided to try to make a big deal of it.

MyGastIsFlabbered · 05/06/2019 19:21

To be honest I've just shut down any conversation she tries to strike up about it.

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S1naidSucks · 05/06/2019 19:28

To be honest I've just shut down any conversation she tries to strike up about it.

Why? Is it her lack of understanding or because you know that non binary is a load of crap and don’t want to admit that to her?

Bezalelle · 05/06/2019 19:34

That flag is a doozy!

Shouldn't it be just one colour, though? More than one colour implies a binary of some sort...

MyGastIsFlabbered · 05/06/2019 19:49

@S1naidSucks I've shut her down because I really don't have the energy to go round and round in circles trying to explain it to her....again. The person who has said they're non-binary is so far removed from her, they're never likely to meet so there's no real need for her to 'get' it.

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Ivestoppedreadingthenews · 05/06/2019 19:55

Bisexual is about fancying men and women. Non binary is that you recognise male and female characterics of yourself and don’t want to be known as either a man or a woman.

Disclaimer: This can only really be a thing if you believe that the essence of male or female is essentially stereotypes, so many people don’t agree on binary is a ‘thing’. Non binary people would presumably disagree with that.

In reality just treating them kindly and steering clear of gender topics is probably fine.

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 05/06/2019 21:37

Definitely steer clear of gender topics. Unless you have unlimited free time and hate yourself.

That flag is half suffragette isn't it? What do the other two colours represent? Are non binary people actually part suffragette, part grand Prix?

LolaSmiles · 05/06/2019 21:45

Someone who doesn't see themselves in the new wave of stereotypical masculinity and femininity but rather than challenging the growing gender orthodoxies by saying 'screw gender stereotypes because they're damaging to men and women, why don't we embrace everyone's individuality regardless of genitals', they want to join in a game of oppression top trumps.

Many gender critical women probably tick the non-binary principle. They're just quite happy getting on with being a woman.

Mxyzptlk · 05/06/2019 23:11

Maybe your mum could raise the topic on Gransnet?
She'd likely get a good chat going on there. (serious suggestion)

campion · 05/06/2019 23:31

I chose those colours for my fantasy football team last season. Who knew?!

Had a crap season.

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