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Do you think I’ll ever get my dsis back?

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BrainScience · 08/05/2019 10:04

Nc’d as dsis would definitely recognise me from my previous posting history.

Dsis and I have been best friends our whole life. We were born 11 months apart and were in the same class for primary and secondary. Even now we live 80 miles apart we message each other everyday and speak on the phone a couple of times a week. She’s the funniest, cleverest, just loveliest person I know.

But, nearly 2 years ago she had her first child and has turned into a completely different crazy person. I’m sure when I had my first dc I was a bit child centric for a while but this is a whole new level. Her dh and her ate puréed food for 6 months when her dd wouldn’t eat anything through baby led weaning as they wanted to all eat the same as a family. I got her dd a little dress when she was a couple of months old. Dsis opened it and immediately shoved it back in the bag in shock and said ‘I told you she won’t be wearing dresses.’ She may have told me at some point during one of her massive lists of what they will/ won’t be doing for dd but I genuinely didn’t pick up on it. When her dd was about 6 months old I said something like ‘don’t you look pretty in your stripy leggings’ and was told I wasn’t to use the word pretty, I should say ‘strong’ or ‘brave’. If we ever go to cafes dsis will bring out a picnic she’s made for her dd and herself, again because the family must all eat the same thing. Once I got my dc’s an ice cream when we were out and dsis constructed a wall out of a couple of muslins and sticks so her dd wouldn’t see them eat it. I was told if I wanted to buy them ice creams could I let her know in future so she could remove her dd.

There are so many more crazy examples that it would take days for me to list. I thought it would last a few months and then she’d realise she was being nuts and go back to being herself. But it’s been nearly two years and there’s no sign of my dsis coming back. I don’t want to mention that she might be being a teeny bit ott with her dd because I don’t want to upset her. But she doesn’t seem to be bothered that a lot of her parenting is clearly disapproving of what I’m doing and it makes me feel a bit shit.

In previous years we always used to set Skype up next to each other when we watched tv series so it was like we were in the same room. She won’t do that now as she doesn’t want to use screens unnecessarily (even though her dd would be in bed) as it sets a bad example. I was watching GoT the other night on my own and I actually started crying because I missed my dsis so much.

Is there any hope of her coming back? I know everything changes when you have kids but I’d like just one conversation with her that wasn’t about how she’s raising her child. Or do you think I just have to accept this is who she is now?

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Macandcheese05 · 08/05/2019 10:45

n previous years we always used to set Skype up next to each other when we watched tv series so it was like we were in the same room.

She’s the funniest, cleverest, just loveliest person I know.

can i just say how sweet you both sound. what a lovely relationship.

im so sorry things have changed like this. can i ask has anyone else noticed a change? your parents or other friends of hers? maybe sit down and have a chat with her and tell her how you feel. she may compromise with you and realize shes lost herself a little bit.

Disfordarkchocolate · 08/05/2019 10:49

I think you're stuck with a new sister now. How on earth you haven't laughed out loud at some of these I don't know.

chocolatebuttonsandcheese · 08/05/2019 10:52

She constructed a wall of sticks and Muslins...

Surely someone has told her she's being OTT?

Trippedupagain · 08/05/2019 11:14

This all seems a new level of crazy and I feel so sad for you, losing her like this at a time you should be so close. You don't say much about her DH, presumably because you want to keep things factual as far as possible, but is he behind a lot of this odd behaviour?

OliviaBenson · 08/05/2019 11:22

I'm having the same with one of my best mates. It's like she's no longer her but just mum now and has no time for me.

I'm also hoping she'll come back to me..... in the mean time I bite my tongue. Hard.

BowiesJumper · 08/05/2019 11:45

This actually brought a tear to my eye (I'm pregnant and hormonal).

This is really bizarre. Is it all coming from her rather than her husband?
Did she have any PND? I can't really compute what would motivate such odd behviour in someone previously normal!!

IAmTheChosenOne · 08/05/2019 11:47

She has a personality disorder. What does your mum/her partner think about this change?

Lumene · 08/05/2019 11:51

It just sounds like she has different values to yours and is asking you to respect that. What’s wrong with wanting to eat the same as a family and resist sex stereotypes?

rubyxo · 08/05/2019 11:52

What does dsis mean? (Sorry)

MsMightyTitanAndHerTroubadours · 08/05/2019 11:59

does she not have any other friends to tell her she is being crazy?

and this is so far beyond what's wrong with wanting to eat the same that dinner is a mere pureed dot on the distant horizon.

The only thing that will bring her back is another baby or when the first one hits school and discovers other people.

BrainScience · 08/05/2019 12:09

She’s dropped a lot of her friends since having her dd and my dm is with me in not knowing how she’ll react if/ when we speak to her about it. She was always very career driven and had a well paid, stressful job that she absolutely loved for and she’s decided she’s never going back to it.

lumene there’s absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to play up to sex stereotypes, it’s something I’m very careful about with my ds’s. My ds’s have trains and dolls houses, kitchens and cars to play with. But my niece is only allowed cars, if she picks up a doll at my house dsis takes it off her. Again, eating as a family is something that we’ve always done but I’ve never eaten pureed food or put a blanket over my kids head to stop them seeing someone eating an ice cream.

I really don’t know if it is some kind of MH thing. I know her and her dh have been trying for a long time for a baby which has maybe made them pretty stressed. But I genuinely don’t know how she (or he) would react if I told them how much they’ve changed. They certainly seem to be egging each other on almost. I don’t know, it’s such a mess.

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IAmcuriousyellow · 08/05/2019 12:24

My guess is she’s terrified of the whole mothering thing and is trying to get control over every little detail. You’ll get her back - might take some time bless her. Maybe a little light ribbing might help her see how bizarrely she’s behsving, but she just sounds desperately anxious to me.

LemonBreeland · 08/05/2019 12:27

I would wonder if it was maybe pnd, but the fact that her dh is on board with batshit crazy stuff like eating pureed food is just odd.

I feel for you OP, because I don't know what you can do to fix this.

AfterTrentham · 08/05/2019 12:29

She sounds unwell. The problem is that she lacks insight, and her husband is encouraging her. Can somebody like your mum gently suggest she sees her GP?

bigKiteFlying · 08/05/2019 12:36

The only thing that will bring her back is another baby or when the first one hits school and discovers other people.

^^ This. Though I wonder if they've had more struggles than they let on.

One of my Mum friends and her DH were a bit like this but not so bad– pnd isolation - they were youngest parents in their peer group and felt dropped - critical family (her parents did daily 20 minutes of finding fault and threats a day it was something to hear), underlying health condition– plus due to underlying health conditions this was only child possible.

There was a sort of feedback loop of anxiety between them – I once had 30 minutes phone call of angst about their DD dropping a bottle in evening and not eating a banana (They were lucky I liked them) . I said what we all said perhaps she isn’t hungry at that time any more – took HV to say same before they stopped worrying.

The more they were around other parents at groups and visiting other patents houses the better they got – her pnd improved - they were pretty normal by time their DD started school.

FoxSquadKitten · 08/05/2019 12:41

The only thing that will bring her back is another baby or when the first one hits school and discovers other people.

Exactly this. I was sure my first born wasn't going to eat sweets or watch tv. Two years later 2nd one comes along (then 3 & 4) and it's 'here's a packet of buttons, why don't you watch Peppa pig' 😂
All teenagers now and I've totally lost control 😆

You'll get your Dsis back but it may take a little while.

HumphreyCobblers · 08/05/2019 12:47

This sounds so extreme though, it seems like more than just being PFB.

What is the dynamic like between your dsis and her husband, is he setting the agenda or is she? Mostly one person would act as a brake if the other one was getting a bit out of hand.

Millie2013 · 08/05/2019 12:50

(never mind your search history, are you sure she won't recognise you from this post).

I think we need more examples of this -craziness- unusual behaviour

Seriously though, I feel for you, I lost a friend through similar, albeit less extreme behaviour + virtue signalling, I can't imagine having a sister like it :(

BrainScience · 08/05/2019 12:50

They’ve always had a very good relationship as far as I know. He’s a complete male version of my dsis and I love him to pieces. I can’t imagine him setting the agenda or attempting to isolate her, but then a couple of years ago I would never have imagined my dsis having a completely new personality. I just don’t know.

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CrispbuttyNo1 · 08/05/2019 12:55

"There are so many more crazy examples that it would take days for me to list."

Please give us some more as the ones so far are utterly batshit. 😁

HumphreyCobblers · 08/05/2019 12:59

Is she aware that she is parenting differently to most people? Does she feel that she is doing it 'better' than most or does she think she is making normal adjustments?

EL8888 · 08/05/2019 13:03

Some people do lose the plot (and themselves) when they have a child. Alongside this is typically poor self awareness. Personally l would let her get on with it, it's unlikely she would recognise any of this weirdness and self absorption anyway

Stormy76 · 08/05/2019 13:06

She is over the top but probs because she wants to do every thing perfectly, I imagine she was like this at work and now see’s her role as mother as her new job. I think you and your mother need to intervene a bit, speak to her DH about some of the odd things she is doing......putting a blanket on a kids head because of ice cream is odd. Maybe it’s time for a couple of spa days or a girly no kids night, she needs to remember what it was like to just hang out with you. You can’t leave it though because she is going OTT

midsummabreak · 08/05/2019 13:09

She needs time doing her own thing, a hobby she is passionate about or a job to get balance back in her life. Can you or some one babysit so she can see a mobie or go out with friends?

IDrinkAndISewThings · 08/05/2019 13:12

I like that theory @Stormy76, that she's taking the energy she invested in excelling at her job and transferred it onto 'excelling' as a parent. The purée eating is bizarre but at least relatively private and behind closed doors, but things like the muslin Berlin Wall are properly bizarre in their goggle worthiness - if she keeps that behaviour up when her daughter is older then she risks opening her up to ridicule. Does she have many mummy friends? Attend playgroup/ mothers and toddlers? It feels as though she needs a peer group to show her that her actions are 'unusual', I'm not sure you and your mum as a singularity would have much impact