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Would your work pay for this? AIBU thinking they would?

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Quickthrowaway · 23/04/2019 22:00

I’ve been told I need to go on a training course/conference. Really short notice. Full day 9am-4.30, paid for by work.

However....it is a 6 hour drive or a 4.30 hr train journey away. Meaning I need to be leaving around 2/3/4am in the morning and then the same on the way home.

They will not pay for a hotel the night before and it’s expected I will drive and claim back mileage. Should say it is a public sector job. AIBU to think they would pay for accommodation the night before?

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TitusP · 23/04/2019 22:02

Mine would 100% pay for the night before and very possibly the night after. I work for a very large corporate company but there must be basic rules about this as driving that much in a day on top of a working day is dangerous!

pigsinarow · 23/04/2019 22:02

YANBU I absolutely would not go if accommodation plus food/drink allowance is fully paid. It is dangerous to do that much driving with no sleep, if you were to have an accident they may be liable.

SherlockSays · 23/04/2019 22:02

I work in the public sector and accommodation the night before absolutely would be paid for.

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Gizlotsmum · 23/04/2019 22:02

Anything over 3 hours drive gets accommodation where I work.

pigsinarow · 23/04/2019 22:03

Wasn’t* not is (obviously)

mrsed1987 · 23/04/2019 22:03

I work in public sector too and my manager would always offer a hotel if requested. I used to have to travel somewhere 4 hours away and stayed over

Dollywilde · 23/04/2019 22:04

Frankly I’m not even sure it’s entireky safe to do 12 hours driving and 7 hours working over the course of 19.

Onceuponacheesecake · 23/04/2019 22:05

My company wouldn't allow that. They would absolutely pay for a hotel for at least one night.

Aimily · 23/04/2019 22:05

If I had to travel further than 2 hours by any means of transport my previous employer organised over night stay. Current role finds travel, not sure about over night as its not a job that quotidian constitute a need.

Seems a bit unfair that you would need to leave that early and they wouldn't fund it for you and expect you to claim back...

Theninjawhinger · 23/04/2019 22:06

I’ve worked for lots of companies where I was expected to travel a lot - I would sometimes do a day return to London from Newcastle driving for example. BUT. That was my choice, and in your situation, I would def expect a hotel both before and after.

KnitterOfSocks · 23/04/2019 22:06

We would get two nights paid. A 6 hour drive is a full working day. I would absolutely refuse to do it otherwise, totally ridiculous and unsafe.

Muddlingalongalone · 23/04/2019 22:07

Mine would pay - possibly before and after if I was driving but definitely before.

trilbydoll · 23/04/2019 22:08

We would pay for the night before but assume you'd rather come home at 4.30pm and have a late night. If you said you'd rather stay we would pay.

Ihatesundays · 23/04/2019 22:09

I’ve worked public sector and they would pay for accommodation.
If not say you will set off driving when your day starts (9am?) and you get there whenever.

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Quickthrowaway · 23/04/2019 22:10

Do any of you work in public sector though? We have to fill 10 forms in just for a new pen (slight exaggeration)

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Whoopstheregomyinsides · 23/04/2019 22:11

Definitely not reasonable to do thee and back and in day

Namechanger4dis · 23/04/2019 22:11

We would get two nights. Anything less and I would refuse to go.

That’s a dangerous day.

tenbob · 23/04/2019 22:12

Private sector and would absolutely be able to stay over on company money the night before and probably also the night of

If it started on a Monday and I had to travel on a Sunday afternoon or evening, I would also be told to take a day off to make up for losing part of my weekend (but would only take a half day..!)

NoSquirrels · 23/04/2019 22:13

If you have to be there that early, then they need to pay for accommodation overnight.

I sometimes have to be at work 4hrs from my home, and have to get a butt-fuck-o-clock train. But that would be for a 10am meeting start. Earlier than 9.30 and 100% would stay over the night before.

Also, fuck driving if it is longer to drive than by train. They need to pay for accommodation and your choice of transport.

I'd refuse, otherwise.

Spideryplant · 23/04/2019 22:13

I'm public sector. Yes they would pay for a hotel.

SunnySomer · 23/04/2019 22:14

I’m public sector and accommodation the night before would be paid. Though what did didn’t mention is what your home-work commute is. The official rules only allow (I think) you to calculate distance from your place of work, so if you live in Brighton, work in London and need to travel to Leeds, it would only calculate the London to Leeds journey which is doable by 9.
A sensible and pragmatic manager would use their discretion and authorise it because the kind of journey you’re being told to make is dangerous. If I were you I’d look up your t&s rules and see if there’s some guidance you can find and quote to your manager.

NancyJoan · 23/04/2019 22:15

Yes, hotel and train would be booked and paid for.

misper · 23/04/2019 22:15

Several PPs have said they work public sector and the hotel would be paid for, no question. I'm another one!

NoSquirrels · 23/04/2019 22:15

A 6-hour drive is totally unreasonable whatever sector you're in. Honestly, they cannot require you to get up at 3am to drive 6 hours and then be fit for whatever the "essential" training is. It's a waste of everyone's time - better value for them in paying your hotel bill.

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Quickthrowaway · 23/04/2019 22:17

Right, thank you all!

I’m going to go in tomorrow and be firm!

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