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Transsexuals are not Transgender

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LeanneMills1961 · 07/04/2019 21:07

Dear members,

As a transsexual I understand where you come from regarding the onslaught of transgenderism, as women you need to preserve and protect yourselves and your spaces (and rightly so). But at the risk of provoking your anger, I feel I must say I am so sorry that some of you feel that transsexual people are no different to those hordes of cross-dressing men.

Transsexualism is a medically-diagnosed condition, it is cross-dressing that is a lifestyle choice. We are distressed by our natal bodies, while they are content with theirs and particularly their wardrobes of female clothing; fantasies that were once kept in the privacy of the bedroom are now being brazenly extended into the street with full protection by law from ridicule, deliberately and maliciously using the plight of transsexuals as an excuse.

Furthermore they are the ones, not us, who are pushing aggressively to invade your spaces.

Please believe me when I tell you we share absolutely nothing in common with transgender. Qualified physicians will tell you that a transsexual person is someone who has undergone major surgery and requires a lifetime of care while a self identified non medicated transgender person with a fully intact body of natal sex requires none (save for cosmetic procedures, which again is by choice).

Jenny Randles (on Twitter) and I worked hard to set up the petition calling for the inquiry into transgender activist intervention in the care of children at Tavistock to protect the thousands of vulnerable and confused youngsters coming daily through its doors. If transsexuals are removed from the equation, which a rising number on here seem to be advocating, then you are playing right into the transgender mob's hands - for they also want the concept of transsexual eliminated because they see it as restrictive of them and their bid for self ID.

The Labour Party too is also committed to this end as indicated in its manifesto.

Therefore by removing that specific diagnosis for transsexuals, care could be jeopardized putting lives in danger. Fine for those who love dressing up but catastrophic for those with actual sex based dysphoria because access to health care would be at risk since it does not apply to the transgender population.

And remember if there's only (officially) transgender people, with all NHS care withdrawn (and self ID will remove entirely all safeguards for the confused) even your own children, and those still to be, may suffer; those believing they're the opposite sex (as they are doing now) but no medical counselling to help them realize they're not, and others who are genuinely transsexual without course to treatment of any kind. Once again it will be the children who will pay the price.

So I plead with you all please don't abandon transsexuals. There are so few of us, and an even tinier number in a position to actively stand by your side. Jenny and I believe if we lose the support of women, all is lost. Hemmed in by two giant opposing sides we cannot continue. I understand your possible resentment at my post here and may desire to express it. But I wish to assure you we are on your side.

But at the end of the day, without transsexual voices trying to bring sense back and act as a bulwark to the narrative pushed by the transgender activists, the writing is on the wall for everybody.

All the very best,
Leanne Mills

OP posts:
Passtheknitting · 21/04/2019 19:39

"Qualified physicians will tell you that a transsexual person is someone who has undergone major surgery and requires a lifetime of care while a self identified non medicated transgender person with a fully intact body of natal sex requires none (save for cosmetic procedures, which again is by choice). "

So until someone has had genital surgery they arent transsexual?

What does someone get called then when they are diagnosed GD, on HRT and waiting years for surgery ? Are they not valid transsexual ?

GregoryPeckingDuck · 21/04/2019 19:43

Fair enough. I think it’s safe to say that most gender critical people are primarily concerned with men using self ID to access women’s spaces. While some people from that camp may not believe that you can change sex etc that’s more of an academic discusssion.

NoBaggyPants · 21/04/2019 19:48

As a transsexual I understand where you come from regarding the onslaught of transgenderism

You do realise that many of us have no issue with transgender people?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/04/2019 19:53

👋 hello. I’m old fashioned so still have the ‘transvestite’ and ‘transsexual’ vocab.

Transgender does my head in becaus it is meaningless. A drag queen may be transgender - some are gay, some are straight, some may wish to be female and some don’t. But when it comes down to it ‘gender’ is just costume and social conditioning so as a descriptor is as valid as say hair or eye colour.

I believe that Grayson Perry dresses like a girl/doll as costume art. He is a he and he knows it. A frilly frock and bonnet doesn’t make him a little girl or kewpie doll.

You can’t put on a kimono and declare yourself Japanese.

I think most people know the difference but it is agencies with an axe to grind (first syllabul ‘like a rock’, second syllable rhymes with ‘ball’) who are pushing to extend the boundaries and include every male person who ever borrowed his wife’s dressing gown to put out the cat.

NoToast · 21/04/2019 19:58

I've seen on twitter the abuse transexuals get from transgender activists. You have my sympathy. You are as you say being caught in the middle of a toxic debate . I've certainly appreciated transexuals who have voiced their concerns and been active for n support of women and children.

WineGummyBear · 21/04/2019 20:00

Agree with NoToast

SmellsLikeAdultSpirit · 21/04/2019 20:03

I would support your battle for a third space but, at the end of the day, its all males and hie can women tell which is which
More importantly it is males wanting something women have or wanting to stop women from being a distinct biological category which can only hurt women

donquixotedelamancha · 21/04/2019 20:10

So I plead with you all please don't abandon transsexuals

I think there is going to be a nasty backlash before this is over. Please be assured Leanne that I, and many others, will be right there with you.

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