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Would you like this in a holiday let?

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RocketSurgery · 05/04/2019 15:44

Dh and I are currently in the process of turning a stable block and barn into accommodation that we’re planning to let out for holidays. We’ve read hundreds of thread about layouts and welcome packs etc. but there are three sticking points that as yet we can’t decide on. So please help if you can!

Firstly the cottage will be in the grounds of our house but will have separate drive, garden and look like an entirely separate property. If you were staying there would you like to know that the owner lives at the bottom of the garden or not? Pro’s are that we can be there immediately if there’s a problem and we’re both as knowledgeable about the building as we can be so should be able to sort anything there and then. Cons being that people may feel we’re keeping an eye on them and not be able to relax properly.

Secondly a hot tub? All the agencies I’ve spoken to have said to definitely get one if we can afford to as it immediately pushes the house up a grade in terms of charges. I hate hot tubs —filthy sex ponds— and can’t see their appeal at all. The house will sleep up to ten so groups will generally consist of two or more families if that changes anything at all. The cost of buying and running a hot tub would easily be covered by the bump up in charges but I think the category it puts the house in means I’d need to buy a lot of other things to justify it too.

Thirdly a secret den. The the back of one of the built in wardrobes there’s a door about 80cm high with a room about 2mx2m behind it. My dc’s have turned it into a little den with fairy lights, bean bags, nice photos on the walls and they often go in there for a bit of peace. I think it would be great to keep it and do a series of clues for families telling them how to find it. Dh is not keen at all and thinks it overcomplicates things. He thinks kids could get ill due to it being too stuffy and get co poisoning or something.

I’d love to hear others thoughts. Thank you.

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Meandwinealone · 06/04/2019 12:01

What I always think is nice is some books. Just charity shop jobs and also cookery books in the kitchen. Preferably local type ones, fish ones. It’s nice to think you can try and do something a little different on hols.

Also there are NEVER enough serving dishes. Like nice table ones. I’m always amazed at that. And paper napkins are useful. And candles.
I feel that people like to make more of an effort at dinner - but maybe that’s just me.

No to hot tub and yes to den. Hassle wise.

polarpig · 06/04/2019 12:07

I wouldn't stay anywhere where the owners lived near by. We had a holiday let once where the owners lived next door and they would let themselves in when we weren't there. We'd be relaxing in the evenings and they would look in through the windows.
A hot tub seems like a nice idea but I'd rather have a decent luxury bathroom instead unless I knew for certain that the water in the hot tub had been changed. As for the den, it's a lovely idea that it is there but if it wouldn't make any difference to whether I booked or not.

Backseatonthebus · 06/04/2019 14:56

I agree with others - just say you are nearby in case of any urgent issues. That's a way of saying that you are there, but won't be all over them.

A definite no to a hot tub, they are revolting.

As for the den, if it could be checked for safety by a professional, then I think that would be a unique selling point.

As an aside we don't like being greeted by owners, so I'd avoid that. We had a complete nightmare once when staying near Staithes - the owner wanted to know exactly what time we would arrive (which is a pain in itself). We arrived within 5 minutes of the agreed time and I knocked on her door. No-one answered, and as there was no phone signal, we had to drive for 10 minutes to get a signal to call her. She proceeded to tell us off for being late, and for interrupting cooking dinner for her family. We drove back and were informed that we weren't to park by the stable but would have to park 'on the posh side' ie on her own drive. She then made us move the car during the weekend as her father liked to park in the spot we were parked in. The following night she invited us for a drink at her house, which we of course declined... Talk about how not to welcome guests!!

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strathmore · 06/04/2019 15:18

10- you are in prime hen and stag and so a hot tub would go down well

Location doesn't prevent them- they travel

Personally I would have a smaller let to a higher standard if it was in my garden.

10 could be 10 cars etc

strathmore · 06/04/2019 15:19

These williamholland.com/baths/alvius-bath/

are outside at some hotels- you can have underfloor heating and they stay hot for hours.

BiscuitDrama · 06/04/2019 15:21

Oh good about no boiler in the den. I’m not sure why the CO worry then?

DramaAlpaca · 06/04/2019 15:26

I'd want to know the owners were close by.

No to a hot tub, they are filthy things.

Not bothered about a secret den, I don't have young children. As a pp says it might be better used for storage.

yikesanotherbooboo · 06/04/2019 15:44

I was wondering about the hot tub and the demographic that you are looking at.
Have you picked the brains of several agents?
We were surprised by this when considering letting our cottage eg one company was maximising family friendly aspect whilst a different agent was pushing letting to child free groups eg birdwatchers and summer season players. The letting price was similar but the advertising would be very different.

BringMeTea · 06/04/2019 15:45

I normally rule out places with owners on site but did stay in an amazing place in Sydney with owners above us and it was no bother at all. They were lovely and absent. They also asked for feedback as we were leaving and we told them everything was ace apart from the pillows and they were falling over themselves to thank us and she drove straight off to buy new ones! So. I would make it clear how self-contained it is (if they are not overlooked).

NO to spermy sex pond.

Neutral on den but removing door seems a good idea.

Good luck!

MrsJBaptiste · 06/04/2019 15:49

I may be in the minority here but I think most people would love a hot tub. I wouldn't want one in my garden but when you're away for a break it would be great, especially if away with friends or family.

BikeRunSki · 06/04/2019 15:53

1 - I have stayed in cottages in farms/estates next to the owners, doesn’t bother me, nice to know they are there.

2- I’m not bothered about hot tubs. Have never used one when available.

3 - I’d probably not mention this, and block it off in some way when the house was let. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen. I am very risk adverse though!

Snog · 06/04/2019 15:53

I'd rather have swings than a hot tub if you're marketing at families

justasking111 · 06/04/2019 15:53

It is a big holiday let. My friend has one and is very suspicious of stag/hen weekends, she just will not do them. Although she did discover a porn movie type thing was made in her place once Grin

Supercuts · 06/04/2019 15:53

MrsJBaptiste How can you be in the minority wanting one if you think the majority would also?!

And one in a holiday let used by every Tom, dick and Harry for goodness knows what is 🤮.

OP are you near enough to hear the sex noises at night? Don’t do it! They’re an 80s relic best forgotten!

twinnywinny14 · 06/04/2019 16:06

Wouldn’t worry me that you were so close. Hot tub- definitely wouldn’t put anyone off, but may appeal to some so logically it’s worth it x

Ohyesiam · 06/04/2019 16:14

Yes to all three.
If it were me I think knowing you were there would put off stag weekend groups.

HeronLanyon · 06/04/2019 16:34

Yes to knowing you are nearby - why not and as op says it would deter groups up to ‘no good/noisy parties’ etc which will be a risk anyway given the size.
Complete no to a hot tub. Not only would I not use one I wouldn’t rent a place with one - even not using it I wouldn’t want to follow renters for whom it was a draw. Would also just think the place may be generally naff.
Den - not bothered but I strongly suspect it would be more trouble for you and/or cleaners than it would be worth.

mulberrybag · 06/04/2019 17:33

Could you put a wee heavy curtain instead of a door to the den ? Provides the same 'explore' feel for the kids but not so scary if someone gets accidentally shut in.
I love staying places where there are little unique touches such as yours so definitely go for it, my kids would have loved to have found that on holiday.
I'd far prefer a sauna to a hot tub, but I have worries of previous occupants, not because I don't love them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/04/2019 19:35

Hot tub would knock us into the next price bracket and our house looks fairly rubbish in comparison to the others in the area

In that case I definitely wouldn't get one. Many dislike them anyway, and if the place lacks kerb appeal you don't want to discourage bookings because of a higher price

On being nearby I've experienced both outcomes - one where the owners were delightful and another where they'd got a very obvious chip on their shoulders about needing the rental money and stood glaring, hands on hips, each time we went out. Overall, the separate drive and entrance would mean it wasn't an issue for me personally

On other tips, I'd first try living in it for a week yourself - you'll soon find out any little extras it needs. And I'd keep all enquiries through the agents at first rather than encouraging door-knocking; best to know how demanding renters are likely to be before offering quite such easy access

Strugglingmum73 · 06/04/2019 20:00

My kids would love secret den.

Hot tub would appeal to us.

Owners on same site not ideal but it’s sonething I could overlook if I liked the property/area

Blankiefan · 06/04/2019 20:02

We stayed at a cottage last year with the owners next door. I saw it as a plus as we could arrive at a time that suited and they popped round only on day 1 to show us how things worked. We didn't see them again until we dropped off the keys. So I'd say it's fine- but keep your distance.

Langrish · 06/04/2019 20:06

Holiday cottaging for 30 years: wouldn’t want to know you were so close, hate hot tubs: not sure about the secret den? sounds lovely but would it be a pain in the arse for your cleaner to look after? You need to be sure there’s no chance whatsoever a child can get stuck in there.

xalyssx · 06/04/2019 20:45

Could you take the door to the den off, and replace it with a curtain?

hopeishere · 06/04/2019 21:03

I really don't like owners in the same site. Having said that we've only had that twice and both times it was fine!!

Hot tub - no.

Den - no.

RocketSurgery · 06/04/2019 21:27

Curtain for the den is a good idea.

They’re not really the same site - completely separate drives and gardens, just joined by the garden wall.

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