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Johnny Depp & Amber Heard

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LadyDeadpool · 14/03/2019 15:04

Johnny Depp lost his role in PoC and almost lost his role in Fantastic beasts because of the allegations against him but the latest news stories are showing that she was the abuser and there's a hell of a lot of proof of that. We say we believe you and I remember it being all over mumsnet at the time that he should not get any acting jobs in the wake of the allegations and I supported that and am now feeling awful that he was the victim in all of this.

What drives someone to do this? To make all these false allegations and ruin someone's life while systematically abusing them? Will she face the same consequences he did?

Just interested in others thoughts about this.

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Coffeebean76 · 15/03/2019 06:29

Ruggypeg that’s exactly the thing. A narcissist can be utterly charming and charismatic AND an utterly abusive, manipulative, lying and gaslighting bastard. I was married to such a man and many people still believe he is a caring, wonderful person.

You’re in danger of projecting.

BusterGonad · 15/03/2019 06:37

I didn't believe all AH said about him, to me she seemed a bit untrustworthy and I think she just wanted to ruin his reputation, I've never really taken to her. JD is no saint but I genuinely don't believe he was a monster, also as others have said I think they had quite a toxic relationship.

BoneyBackJefferson · 15/03/2019 06:43

KittyLane1

I also find it interesting that when Amber got $7m settlement she was called a gold digging whore and now Johnny wants $50m there's not a peep.

I suspect (and I have no source for this) its because its what the money is for, one is for being married for less than two years and the other is being put forward as loss of earnings.

BusterGonad · 15/03/2019 06:45

That video (further back in the thread) is rubbish, crap quality and hardly shocking. I need to look more into this to decide. I was hoping for some decent links!

BusterGonad · 15/03/2019 06:53

Just having a Google and came across this quote of his in regards to wine expenditure “It’s insulting to say that I spent $30,000 on wine. Because it was far more.”

SemperIdem · 15/03/2019 06:57

I suspect they were violent to each other, behind closed doors rather than either one being solely to blame

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 15/03/2019 06:58

He had a reputation years ago for smashing up rooms and being aggressive

This may have not been towards his partner but that behavior is frightening to be around and who is going to challenge him

The video he looks and sounds very agressive

He has a lot of people around him to protect them their careers are are his career like in MJ’s case

And as for being the nicest guy on set or towards fans etc since when did abusers show their abusive side to everyone Hmm

GirlRaisedInTheSouth · 15/03/2019 07:03

Of course we're just supposed to forget about the bruises Heard had.

Ah, yes. She posted a picture didn’t she? And put a filter on it to make the bruises look purple! Sorry, but she lost all credibility in my eyes for doing that.

JollyAndBright · 15/03/2019 08:22

Nobody can ever truly know what happened between them.

What is most likely is they were absolutely toxic for one another and both brough out the worst in each other.

I do have to say that personally I think her behaviour since they split has negatively impacted my opinion of her more than it has his.

ShatnersWig · 15/03/2019 08:42

That's exactly what "I Believe You" is about - it's not about automatically branding the accused as an abuser, but about listening to the (alleged, I guess) victim

@Gunpowder I remember when I Believe You was being heavily promoted and many of us had problems with it. Because you're right, it's about ensuring the person reporting is listened to, that they feel they are being properly listened to, and that what they say is taken seriously. Which isn't the same thing as believing them.

MrsJayy · 15/03/2019 08:47

It looks like (to me) they were asbad as each other violence alcohol maybe other substances made for a terrible volitile relationship.

joyfullittlehippo · 15/03/2019 09:06

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tabulahrasa · 15/03/2019 09:08

I can’t really bring myself to care that a man worth 200 million dollars might have lost out on some more film roles tbh...

GunpowderGelatine · 15/03/2019 09:09

That video (further back in the thread) is rubbish, crap quality and hardly shocking. I need to look more into this to decide. I was hoping for some decent links
Mad someone who grew up in a house with a violent alcoholic father, that video sent chills down my spine. It's exactly the kind of build up that can lead to a violent explosion. These build ups can last hours. The pacing around, the looking for things, kicking and slamming, the asking provocative questions intended solely to wrong foot someone so they could use the excuse later they were provoked ("Did anything happen to you today?" He asked her), a woman trying to placate (don't think walking away out the room is the easy option for her as this can trigger a violent outburst) - it's all textbook. It's all familiar and absolutely the marker of abuse.

Tell me would you be shocked or upset if your OH behaved like this towards you? What if it was your mum or DD spoken to like that by their partner?

GunpowderGelatine · 15/03/2019 09:12

And put a filter on it to make the bruises look purple! Sorry, but she lost all credibility in my eyes for doing that

Of course she did Hmm god people swallow anything when it comes to a sexy man (though personally I think JD is rank and looks like he works on the waltzers).

Did the paparazzi also photoshop the pictures they took of her walking into court with the same bruise?? I remember people criticising her on here for looking miserable when she went into court! But I imagine if she was smiling they'd have something to say about that too.

Can those slating her please tell us all how victims should be behaving please? Because obviously they must follow a certain set of behaviours or they're definitely liars Hmm

MrsJayy · 15/03/2019 09:53

I just read the post about his hillbilly rages bloody hell yeah i just bite people

BusterGonad · 15/03/2019 09:55

Gunpowder I need to rewatch it then in my iPad as I couldn't really see it properly then, sorry to have upset you. I don't really know what to think anymore. It's a shame as I quite liked his quirkiness but I need to face up to the fact that maybe he is a dick after all.

MyBestFriendIsAHamster · 15/03/2019 11:23

Even if she did put a filter on the photo then so bloody what? She still had a bruise!

Didn't she also appear on a talk show with a bruise around her eye which she tried unsuccessfully to cover with makeup?

MyBestFriendIsAHamster · 15/03/2019 11:29

I've seen it mentioned both here and on another forum that Winona Ryder once gave an interview where she spoke about being in an abusive relationship. Apparently she didn't name any names but the timing she gave would have fitted her relationship with Depp perfectly.

I've mentioned before that I'm a bit skeptical of these claims as I've never found any quotes or snippets from this interview online other than people talking about it. But apparently it was pre-internet days so I suppose it's possible there might not be any reference online?

And of course Ryder later went on to say Depp didn't abuse her but as mentioned above, victims lie to protect their abusers all the time, so...

BoneyBackJefferson · 15/03/2019 16:18

MyBestFriendIsAHamster
Even if she did put a filter on the photo then so bloody what?

because it casts doubt on her account of the events.

She still had a bruise!

See above. especially as there are allegedly people calling the bruise in to doubt. (just saying)

KittyLane1 · 15/03/2019 17:49

I was badly assaulted at work by one of the kids I taught.
She hit me very hard, several times around my head and face. I only had one bruise, despite being viciously attacked. The bruise was under my eye.
The bruise was clearly visible to the naked eye but difficult to catch on camera, despite being very clearly visible.
Police had to use a ring light to capture the bruise and had to take pictures from different angles in order to get a clear picture on camera for evidence. (Just saying. )

BoneyBackJefferson · 15/03/2019 18:06

KittyLane1

sorry "devils advocate" the difference is that the police did this for you, she did this for herself.

The police that attended the call out also have a different view to Heard's view. (as do others that have come forward about the bruise).

again I don't know what happened, being a survivor of DV myself, I can safely say that I have no idea what went on but I won't jump on the bandwagon of either side.

joyfullittlehippo · 15/03/2019 19:51

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gluteustothemaximus · 15/03/2019 19:57

I believe Vanessa Paradis and his children. I never thought he’d done it and thought the thread on here was a bit nasty at times.

This with all the bells and whistles. MN was fucking horrible over Johnny Depp, you just dare not say ANYTHING because he was a 'wife beater' Hmm

I never believed Amber. Not because I like Johnny Depp or because famous men can't be abusive, but just because I didn't believe her. But rather than say anything, I said nothing. Just on the off chance she was right. I'm glad more is coming out though.

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