Johnny Depp & Amber Heard

[LadyDeadpool]

Johnny Depp lost his role in PoC and almost lost his role in Fantastic beasts because of the allegations against him but the latest news stories are showing that she was the abuser and there's a hell of a lot of proof of that. We say we believe you and I remember it being all over mumsnet at the time that he should not get any acting jobs in the wake of the allegations and I supported that and am now feeling awful that he was the victim in all of this.

What drives someone to do this? To make all these false allegations and ruin someone's life while systematically abusing them? Will she face the same consequences he did?

Just interested in others thoughts about this.

But iirc, at the time an ex of hers claimed she had a history of being the aggressor

Her ex claimed no such thing.

I thought he was also violent to Kate Moss? Hard to blame Amber Heard for that.

I thought Vanessa Paradis calmed him down, whereas Kate and Amber are/were party girls themselves so his alcohol and drug problems were more active when he was with them (which is not their fault or any excuse for violence, he’s an adult who should know when to stop).

But she has previous form for being violent or aggressive in relationships.

But the ex she was accused of being violent towards actually denied there was any abuse in their relationship and criticised the allegations which were made against Heard.

Depp also has history of violence and physically assaulting people but that always seems to get brushed under the rug. I'm always amazed that people struggle to believe he could have been abusive. He does have form for being aggressive and lashing out. It's not too much of a stretch to believe he could have hit his wife.

I understand pictures have emerged showing Depp with bruises but there were also pictures showing Heard with bruises throughout their relationship. That's another thing people seem to conveniently forget.

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But the ex she was accused of being violent towards actually denied there was any abuse in their relationship and criticised the allegations which were made against Heard.

Yes, its almost as though a victim of a crime has never denied it or protected their abuser.

Which ever way you spin it, neither comes out of this well.

Yes, its almost as though a victim of a crime has never denied it or protected their abuser.

True.

Kinda interesting when it was JD accused he was absolutely destroyed on MN now its AH its " we can never really know"

Yes. But not surprising.

I don’t think he is completely innocent but I think he was grieving and acted badly but not to the extent she said.

What know for a fact is she was convicted of a crime against an ex girlfriend.

So he may have been bad but she was worse- where’s the outcry for her to have no work?

Heard was arrested for misdemeanor assault in the fourth degree / domestic violence & whilst Heard’s partner may have denied it happened, the arrest was made based on what two Seattle police officers witnessed themselves, first hand at the airport, it wasn’t based on third party allegations, he said / she said etc.

What know for a fact is she was convicted of a crime against an ex girlfriend.

She was never convicted. She was arrested but released without charge.

Heard may not be an angel but let's not exaggerate please.

As for suggesting Heard was worse? Are you forgetting or just ignoring Depp's violent past?

To answer the question about why someone (AH in this instance) would lie and with regards to the video etc how many times on here have we heard from a woman who has left an abusive man who is terrified because he's threatening to or is calling SS on her and making allegations/ telling everyone she had an affair/ is pushing her buttons then conveniently recording when she reacts and says things she doesn't usually/ etc etc etc! Abusers do it because they are mightily pissed off their control is taken away and want to continue abusing that person.
I'm not saying that is the case at all, but it does happen and there's evidence of it all over this very site!

Luna people thought Michael Jackson was a big softie.

The thing with the video up thread... it's now come out she may have Been seeing Elon musk. How do we know that video wasn't taken after he suspected something we just don't knows.

People get angry. Anger is a natural emotion and I've seen agressive jealous person same with every partner. I've seen meek polite persons driven to maddnes by a relative,as that same person drove me too maddnes...

He doesn't seem too have a history of violence.. she seems too so who knows!!

Where was he violent too Kate Moss!! I never heard that

OP what is the compelling proof? Because JD has a history of violence and there was a terrifying video Amber took of him lashing out whilst pouring himself a pint of wine. I'm with Amber, and find your post utterly depressing

He doesn't seem too have a history of violence

He does.

He might not have prior history of being violent towards his partners (although we're just taking his ex's word for it that he wasn't) but it's wrong to say he has no history of violence at all.

Any links to these new claims

In this case, the vitriol and hate towards JD on MN was appalling given there was no hard evidence either way. I've not heard the latest news stories

We were obviously reading different threads @SoupDragon I remember MNHQ had to close one thread down because of all the victim blaming towards AH which included someone saying it's her own fault she got hit with the iPhone because she didn't duck when he threw it I'm not kidding

I am also well aware the complexities of being in an abusive relationship. I have been in one.

I didn't even realise it was abusive at the time. It was actually posters on here who encouraged me to get out.

I remember MNHQ had to close one thread down because of all the victim blaming towards AH which included someone saying it's her own fault she got hit with the iPhone because she didn't duck when he threw it

That's appalling!

And YY re not trusting their public persona - I got the shock of my life when my best friend told me her OH was beating her. He was the most charismatic generous charming person I'd ever met. Or so I thought

We were obviously reading different threads

Not sure how you came to that conclusion.

What's the proof she abused him?

People may have defended Heard on MN but the rest of the internet was a completely different matter. Comments on just about every other forum, Facebook comments and comments underneath articles were 99% in defence of Depp whilst slating Heard.

It wasn't exactly him kicking the shit out of her
She probably pushed his buttons beforehand as there was clearly something g kicking off - then pressed record - pathetic and if that's the worst of it it's not exactly proof of terrible things he was accused of

It's comments like this that seriously fuck me off. When is it ever acceptable to behave the way he did in that video? Kicking things and stomping about scaring his wife and pouring half a bottle of wine into a glass then throwing his wife's phone. If someone came into MN and said her DH did that would you ask her if she'd "pushed his buttons" I think anyone who has his "buttons pushed" because someone asks him questions and violently strikes around like a giant toddler is the pathetic one here. Sorry you've been led to have such low standards of men

I think new photos have emerged showing Depp with bruises. His team are alleging they came from Heard abusing him.

Of course we're just supposed to forget about the bruises Heard had.

I’m pretty sure that video was recorded the night he’d found out his mum had died, which could explain his bad mood.