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Shamima Begum has her citizenship revoked

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KenAdams · 19/02/2019 18:48

How can this happen? I thought they aren't allowed to leave a person stateless? Not that I'm disagreeing, I'm just wondering how they managed it.

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Imissgmichael · 20/02/2019 19:54

“What has she actually done that's illegal apart from marry a twat? If that was an offence there would be a lot of people in trouble.”

I though joining a terrorist organisation in it self was a crime?

PostmanPatIsIncompetent · 20/02/2019 19:56

@LarkDescending That judgement is really interesting. Thanks!

CameliaCamelia · 20/02/2019 19:56

She says she thought her parents were wrong for not wanting to go out there with her and for wanting to stay in the uk?

I thought her parents had no idea of her plans though?

CameliaCamelia · 20/02/2019 19:58

Stealing a passport and travelling on it illegally.... there ya go love, that's for starters!!

She still sees herself with her husband and spoke of their future..... so if she came back to uk she would be bringing him back too.... there you go, another reason why you aren't wanted back!

Justanotherlurker · 20/02/2019 19:59

Jux - No, she has to actively seek Bangladeshi citizen (assuming she is even entitled to it) IF she does not before she reaches 21, then she is no longer entitled to it, under their immigration law

They are not basing it on immigration law?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_nationality_law

It's the same law that many people are using to get European passports because of brexiteers, her parents are Bangladeshi, it's inherited

Bicyclethief · 20/02/2019 20:05

She has acquired citizenship, she and her family hate everything about the uk, she joins ISIS and now she and her family want to come back to the place they hate.

She's not been radicalised by the UK, she has been radicalised by extreme version of Islam and her father (as it appears) has led the way in this radicalisation.

Obtaining citizenship from another country is a privilege that like minded people have agreed to bestow onto others. This woman and her family do not deserve this privilege as they have nothing but contempt for the people who have given them this right and the people of this country have every right to feel aggrieved and thankful that her citizenship has been revoked.

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/02/2019 20:09

Bicycle
Ion what basis do you claim her family hate the U.K. and they radicalised her? They reported her missing and tried to get her back.

macaroniandpizza · 20/02/2019 20:10

Im glad shes had her british citizenship revoked tbh. You cant go to syria and join IS and say your not bothered by beheadings or the other barbaric pratices they do then on the other hand cry crocodile tears that you want to come back to the uk after saying the manchester attack was justifed... wtf

BollocksToBrexit · 20/02/2019 20:10

I think this is a terrible knee jerk decision and could come back to bite Britain on the arse. Britain is telling the world that it doesn't think countries of origin have any responsibility to take back its criminals. Great for Britain in this case. But what about in the future when we try to deport foreign criminals? Will their countries just follow Britain's lead and say thanks but no thanks, you keep them?

wigglypiggly · 20/02/2019 20:11

Has she got a UK passport, didnt she steal her sisters to go to Syria. She is prepared to stay with her husband if he gets sent to prison in Holland, does she have any remorse at all.

CameliaCamelia · 20/02/2019 20:15

No wiggly she does not... but the bleeding hearts of mumsnet ( who are a MASSIVE minoritySmile) will still try and convince us otherwise..... it's quite amusingGrin

Justanotherlurker · 20/02/2019 20:17

Britain is telling the world that it doesn't think countries of origin have any responsibility to take back its criminals

No it's applying international law, if we are going down the countries of origin route then the far right will have a field day.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 20/02/2019 20:18

So Bangladesh don't want her. Well that's a surprise said nobody ever with half a brain cell.

The arrogance of this govt deciding where she will go without any discussion seemingly with the country they want to push her on to is breathtaking.

This is our mess not the responsibility of Bangladesh.

We allowed a crazy mixed up and groomed child to leave the country with her sisters passport. Great security there UK.

Said child knew she wasn't headed for Disneyland and seemingly digs a deeper hole everyone she speaks to a journalist.

Makes be laugh that they can revoke her citizenship so quickly but couldnt act that fast for the Windrush people to secure their future here. Think about that for a moment. Sums our leaders up a treat.

LarkDescending · 20/02/2019 20:19

@MadCatEnthusiast she may turn 21 by the time any appeal is determined, but the issue for the appeal tribunal will still be whether the Secretary of State’s decision was lawful the time it was made (by reference to factors which will include whether it rendered her stateless at that time).

LarkDescending · 20/02/2019 20:20

*at the time it was made...

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/02/2019 20:20

The insult levelled at bangladesh by home sec is shit as well

I don't thikn he thought it though when he sais she should not be allowed back but her baby was an innocent and should not be punished

So going to bangladesh is a punishment? Woah.

NicoAndTheNiners · 20/02/2019 20:20

Anyone else think that the Home Secretary May have broken GDPR rules by writing to her parents to tell them she's had her citizenship revoked?

I guess in the grand scheme of things she has more important battles to fight but I'm a bit surprised they did that.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/02/2019 20:21

"While he said he would not comment on individual cases, Home Secretary Sajid Javid has suggested Ms Begum's baby could still be British.

He told the Commons: "Children should not suffer. So, if a parent does lose their British citizenship, it does not affect the rights of their child.""

This.

What a total dick move ffs
So we want them to have our terrorist,
While saying that someone having to go their is to cause them to "suffer"

I mean for christs sake

NicoAndTheNiners · 20/02/2019 20:22

I don't thikn he thought it though when he sais she should not be allowed back but her baby was an innocent and should not be punished

So going to bangladesh is a punishment? Woah.

I think he would argue that he meant having British citizenship is punishment, not actually going to Bangladesh.

MadAboutWands · 20/02/2019 20:23

So Bangladesh don't want her.

Actually what is happening is that Bangladesh laws means she doesn’t have their citizenship and therefore she doesn’t have anything to do with their country.
It’s notbthem refusing to see her coming in their country. It’s them following the Law.

Something the U.K. doesn’t seem keen on doing.

NicoAndTheNiners · 20/02/2019 20:23

Having British citizenship revoked is punishment!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/02/2019 20:23

Taking away british citizenship is neither here nor there if you have somewhere else to go with connections etc

He put his foot in it

BrizzleMint · 20/02/2019 20:24

I've just heard the BBC saying the latest statement she's made to their on-the-spot-correspondent is that she repudiates IS and all they stand for, that she regrets her decision to go to join them and that she would advise any girl planning to do it not to.

Her days are numbered if IS get their hands on her now she has said that. I wonder how she feels about her head being the next one in the bucket - maybe that is why she's trying to be allowed back.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/02/2019 20:24

MadAboutWands of course they don't want her.

Why woudl they?

She's a terrorist and they have enough problems on their hands already.

theDudesmummy · 20/02/2019 20:24

Not necessarily to the point in this case but just to set a legal point straight: you CAN acquire British citizenship when you are under 18 (even if you are not born in Britain), both of my stepdaughters did so at 16. They were born in South Africa to parents who were both South African (and no other nationality) at the time of ther birth and had no British ancestry whatsoever.

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