Shamima Begum has her citizenship revoked

[KenAdams]

How can this happen? I thought they aren't allowed to leave a person stateless? Not that I'm disagreeing, I'm just wondering how they managed it.

I thought yellow vest was far left in France?

I'm talking about the UK, the far right will try to hijack anything tbh and have already done so in France by some accounts.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/farright-wont-hijack-yellow-vest-protest-at-city-hall-organiser-37679156.html

Oh probably both then, far left and far right.... both meeting in the middle

Two things: I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell for an unbiased trial, as most people will have read the news, seen the interviews, and have a view on this.

Someone mentioned a shit hot international human rights lawyer up thread.....I wonder what Mrs Clooney is doing at the moment....or Mrs Blair?

I'm liberal, I don't think these are liberal views.

I agree. You can't claim to be liberal and sympathise with someone who agrees with throwing gay people from high buildings, slaughtering civilians and keeping children as sex slaves (to pick just three).

Thanks, @Calatonia - the Wiki thing sounds ridiculous and the Telegraph's behind a paywall, but that makes a bit more sense now

So if Shamima has parents over here, together with a sister (whose passport she allegedly used), I wonder why they seem to be staying so far below the radar? There is of course no obligation for them to speak publicly, but if they want a lawyer to do it instead the current one seems a bit of an odd choice

Mrs Clooney is championing the rights of yadizi women brutalised by Isis. I don't think she'll be defending this girl.

So if Shamima has parents over here, together with a sister (whose passport she allegedly used), I wonder why they seem to be staying so far below the radar? There is of course no obligation for them to speak publicly, but if they want a lawyer to do it instead the current one seems a bit of an odd choice

If she was my relative, I'd say quiet too. I'd be ashamed and fearful of retribution. We don't know their views (for all we know, they are secular) but we do know that sections of the British public won't care and would happily take revenge.

explodingkitten Yes, I got that, I was just adding to it

Amal Almuddin is engaged defending people rather more worthy of both her time and any defence at all.

I want people in UK to live free liberal life without two tiers system on female subjugation, without Sharia courts, without prejudice for being gay, for being allowed too practise religion as long as it's not insidious to British values and human rights... and the right too walk across a bridge without being run over, eat meal without throat slit, Go freely anywhere without fear of death including....a rock concert

Very well said. I agree with every word. Radical Salafist Islam is a threat to secular liberal European values.

@Sparklyboots a traumatised kid with a baby? She's shown no remorse whatsoever, has named her son after a 13th century jihadi warlord and if isis hasn't been defeated she wouldn't be wanting to come home. She doesn't even deserve thinking about.

were either of her parents British citizens when she was born? All I could find as a reference was a newspaper article stating they were of Bangladeshi heritage

that doesn’t mean she is a naturalised citizen as opposed to jus sanguinis

The parents will be a touch nervous that they'll be done for radicalising her and their other kids taken off them as a result.

Some of the techniques used to radicalise girls are not pretty.

I thought yellow vest was far left in France?

Probably Daily Mail readers - read the headline, look at the photos, learn very little, then scroll down to fight in the comments section.

No, you cannot be naturalised as a BC until you reach 18. This person's parents were not BC when she was born here so she would not have qualified at birth

Wrong - children are naturalised as BCs all the time. They form part of their parent's application(s) for BC.
She would have been Bangladeshi at birth and thus that would be her primary nationality and then she acquired BC in 2009 according to one report I read (when she was ten).
One of the requirements of becoming British is that you will 'give your loyalty to the United Kingdom'. She clearly hasn't, and so her citizenship has been revoked.

I am appalled by the arrogance of Britain - I actually have to agree with bloody Trump of all people on this.

These British citizens are OUR responsibility. France has had way more than their fair share of shit from these appalling people and is stepping up and acknowledging it HAS to take back French ISIS wives/children and deal with them even though it's the last thing they want. It's not "Great" that Britain thinks the way to deal with this is just let a war-torn country with overstretched resources and many, many innocent women and child refugees have to deal with them.

She has duel Bangladeshi nationality so she won't be left stateless. Good news as if she was allowed back her murderous Dutch husband would probably also be allowed to come to UK too. I hope she is not given legal aid to fight against it. Let her parents fund her.

Look at the list of the Manchester victims and hang your heads in shame

How dare you. Hang your head in shame at using innocent victims as a shoddy argument. Instead of bringing up terrorist victims, speak up and say something about the matter at hand.

So if Shamima has parents over here, together with a sister (whose passport she allegedly used), I wonder why they seem to be staying so far below the radar?

I refer you back to this incident on Sunday. I'd keep well below the radar too if I were a family member of someone who went to join IS.

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/brighton-stabbing-murder-probe-launched-after-brother-of-two-isis-fighters-knifed-to-death-a4068956.html

Why is the HO considering this? If she has dual nationality then perhaps they can?

As a citizen she has the right to come home. It’s not her right to expect the UK authorities to wick her away from the camp.

Let her excersise her right and let her make her own way back (she was resourceful enough to make the treacherous journeyto Syria after all).

When back then she can be investigated and face any legal challenges.

MadgeMidgerson
If her parents' were British at the time of her birth she would have been born a British Citizen. That doesn't mean she can't also be Bangladeshi as her parents would have been able to retain their Bangladeshi nationality even when they became British.
I think I read though that she became British in 2009 so I would imagine that her parents only held Bangladeshi nationality at the time of her birth (still making her Bangladeshi) and then applied for BC at a later date (and I assume that Ms Begum was part of that application).
In some ways it is irrelevant. You can't be stripped of your citizenship if you would be made stateless. In this case she will not be stateless.

I thought we were supposed to be a civilised country? Where is our compassion? She may be a foolish young woman, but she was a child when she left. She was groomed by terrorists, FFS!

Exactly, she was groomed been brainwashed by terrorists, FFS!
How do you know she is suddenly a non risk and all sorry now? Especially if she's held those beliefs in the past,enough to run away to an enemy terrorist group, and if the news reports and interviews are anything to go by she isn't showing much remorse.
Now she suddenly wants to come back several years down the line? It doesn't work like that,or shouldn't.
Too risky.

TM who should certainly be well versed in international law.

That's a good one! Hope she applies it to Brexit!

She already made a complete cock-up for people who were here for ever (Windrush).

Sorry to hijack the thread.