Have this:
www.wesellcosmetics.com/rimmel-exaggerate-automatic-waterproof-eye-definer.html?utm_source=google_shopping&140=121&aid=137&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_vKE_e2E4AIVSbftCh3K6Q3lEAQYASABEgKXOPD_BwE
which is good in general in terms of the pencil tip etc and good colour when first applied but tends to fade and smudge downwards (if I apply to lower eyeline so end up with it going down and sinking into the lines under my eyes and giving an awful racoon look.
Anything similar but stays put for 8+ hours? Don't like feltip type pen applicators at all or very thick pencils.