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Which UK politician (past or present) do you feel the most visceral hatred towards right now?

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bibbitybobbityyhat · 15/01/2019 21:24

Me: 1. David Cameron although of course it is a very close run thing with 2. Boris Johnson and 3. Nigel Farage - nuff said.

  1. Jeremy Corbyn - but actually I can't bring myself to hate him all that much for not putting up a strong Labour campaign against Brexit because he never pretended he was a Remainer himself. He is and always has been pro-Brexit from a different angle. He probably shouldn't have been elected leader in the first place.

I've voted Labour in the GE for the entirety of my voting life (since 1983) but at this moment I don't actually feel any anger towards Theresa May - I rather grudgingly admire her. She knows her time as leader is short lived. I have yet to see anyone saying anything tangible about how they could have done it better!

Dh and I are both passionate, passionate Remainers. But we can't support a second vote - it will result in the most horrendous civil unrest! Anyone who thinks the 48% who voted to leave the EU will just quietly accept a different result from a second referendum is deluded.

And so I come back to most visceral hatred for a political figure just now = Cameron for putting us here. It sickens me to the pit of my stomach, thinking of him living his rarified, cosy, massively over-privileged Eton-educated life in Chipping fucking Norton, earning millions as a public speaker off the back of his very short time in politics, running away from the mess he created. What a complete and utter ARSE.

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surferjet · 15/01/2019 23:03

So the rise of UKIP and the popularity of Nigel Farage had nothing to do with it?

Ok.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 15/01/2019 23:04

Farage. "Not a single shot fired". The Cunt.

allthatmalarkey · 15/01/2019 23:04

Agree with so much and disagree with a few. I swing between grudging respect and total despise for T May. Can't help wondering why we have such a dearth in political leadership right now. David was the more talented Miliband, but the unions had other ideas (and weren't they great!). I am still secretly hoping he will turn up and save us.

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AlexaAmbidextra · 15/01/2019 23:04

Tony Blair. A lying hypocrite and he still won’t go away. Just fuck off.

Beckie222 · 15/01/2019 23:08

Arlene Foster!!!!!
She has left Northern Ireland in a mess and her crap talk today about there never being a hard border here in the past is absolute bullshit. She is a vile woman.

shortsaint · 15/01/2019 23:09

@surferjet The rise of UKIP was a factor in the popularity of Leave but Cameron did have to control the right wingers in his party.

Intolerance towards Eastern Europeans is simply racism. UKIP just made it look acceptable. The economy was fine until the crash (not of Blair/Brown making). And the Bigot (and she was) incident was Brown, not Blair.

Gobolinocat · 15/01/2019 23:11

Op Google

How immigration came to haunt Labour, Patrick Wintour
It's a really good article in the guardian which explains the ins and outs of it all.

OhTheRoses · 15/01/2019 23:11

BLIar. BLiar, pants on fire x

allthatmalarkey · 15/01/2019 23:12

In case anyone cares, I meant contempt not despise.

brizzledrizzle · 15/01/2019 23:13

The pathetic excuse for a politician, David Cameron. He was as bad for this country as Farage.

CosmicComet · 15/01/2019 23:13

Thatcher. People who grew up in coal mining communities will never forgive her.

CowJumping · 15/01/2019 23:15

The decision to not exercise transitional controls on movement when Poland and the other eastern European countries joined caused a huge huge rift in society

Or perhaps when Eric Pickles removed the funding for communities where the temporary influx of legal migrants from the new accession EU countries put local services under strain. There had been funding to help schools & hospitals etc, but Pickles removed that.

And actually - those migrants contribute more into the UK economy than they take out. They don't receive benefits etc.

So BOTH parties should have worked a lot harder to reassure UK citizens in areas affected by seasonal & temporary migration that they were not being "swamped" or losing out - as a nation, we are nett gainers from migration.

That's where Corbyn has been so appalling: he did not orchestrate an EU campaign to show people intending to vote Leave that they've been fed a pack of utter lies, and a Leave vote is not in the interests of any working person or working-class person.

Reallyevilmuffin · 15/01/2019 23:20

It's perception. Where my partner just moved from in Wrexham in her social housing there were more EU migrants than UK born residents. That's not right. Emiently sensible to only make sure those who fund themselves come.

As for removing funding, that was the funding that caused us to massively overspend before the financial crash leading to the worst peacetime deficit in the history of the UK. As a Labour MP themselves wrote on a piece of paper 'sorry there's no money left'. Were they supposed to just magic up some more?

Fraying · 15/01/2019 23:28

Blair. He just edges it over Thatcher because she acted the way I'd expect a Conservative to act. Whereas Blair betrayed everything Labour should have represented and has left us with an opposition that would rather sabotage their own party rather than be left-wing.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 15/01/2019 23:28

Where have you explained to me why Blair is to blame for our current situation vis a vis the referendum Surferjet?

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KennDodd · 15/01/2019 23:30

David Cameron

SinisterBumFacedCat · 15/01/2019 23:35

The lack of affordable social housing can be traced all the way back to Thatcher starting the sell off. Not helped by politicians who did nothing since, in both parties. It's easier and popular to blame immigrants right now. Then we won't have to build on precious green belt. In a few years someone else will be to blame. Meanwhile no one addresses the shortage of housing and we all end up working until we die to pay private rents. But yeah, carry on blaming the immigrants.

A4Document · 15/01/2019 23:41

Major (for Maastricht and Lisbon), Blair, Osborne, Clarke, Soubry and Cable. And Bercow.

A4Document · 15/01/2019 23:44

Not "visceral hatred" though. Anger, disbelief and contempt.

Gobolinocat · 15/01/2019 23:44

Op that Guardian article I mentioned, I'm sorry I can't link to it, is really informative.

It mentioned in 1997 net migration was 48 thousand but under Blair at one point went to triple that and more. It explains why people found this to be an issue and how Blair and brown reacted to the publics concerns.

HelenaDove · 15/01/2019 23:54

Ian Duncan Smith and Guy Opperman.

Plornish · 16/01/2019 00:08

Can I add Jonathan Aiken? Getting your daughter and wife to commit perjury on your behalf is pretty low.

Nigel Farage: UKIP has always been the BNP in Marks and Spencers slacks (not saying their voters are necessarily racists).

And ‘Maggie Thatcher Milk Snatcher’ of course.

PutYourBackIntoit · 16/01/2019 00:09

Brown

Selling our gold at rock bottom prices
Lying about how much better everyone would be with income tax reduction, failing to address the fact that he removed the PA. For a labour minister to do that appauls me.
Vat decrease which cost us hugely, and only benefitted the wealthy. Still paying.
Not conversing with people's concerns at that critical point in time. Sent them underground.

BringOnTheScience · 16/01/2019 00:12

Ex-teacher here.

Gove

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scaryteacher · 16/01/2019 00:14

Blair, Mandelson, Kinnock, Robin Cook