If May resigns tonight, what happens next?

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I don’t know if the media are speculating or there is a chance she could resign later today. If she does, what happens next?

I was listening to LBC earlier. A caller said that they believed that there was a better deal but May didn't take it. When challenged, he couldn't elaborate on what the better deal was or why the Pm wouldn't take it.

No one, fucking no one thought about NI. Why didn't the remain campaign bring it up at the time? All they had to do was highlight it as a 'this is not as simple as you might think' and it might have made a few people stop and think.

Most leavers I know in real life are like 'yeah yeah Northern Ireland yadda yadda, when can we stop the immigrants coming in?'

Nutkins I have seen some Brexiteer or other (they all look and sound the same to me) today tweeting that the NI border is not as important as leaving the EU.

This dipshit thinks a return to the Troubles and the damage breaking the GFA would do to our international standing as RedToothBrush points out above is not as important as Brexit. I think you could file this one under 'leave now and sort it out later even though we can't and the country would be on fire by then'.

In general, though, Leave doesn't have a plan, never had a plan, and never can have a plan except no-deal, economic suicide and mass confusion, shortages and collapse. The NI border always was and always will be an insurmountable challenge.

I am not a TM fan but boy oh boy was she given a shit job to do . Cameron misread the country, TM was a remainer and now has to find a way to implement the will of the people on the basis of a referendum which nobody really understood. God help us if JRM throws his hat into the ring , in the words of Dads Army , "we are all doomed".

Anyone else poured some to get ready for the announcement?

@MrsTerryPratcett if I had a like button I would use it! Totally agree

TM was handed the poison chalice after Dave C resigned.

Whatever happens, will happen. I have no actual control over the future but will watch the sun rise in the East, unless JC gets into Number 10, where it will rise in the West.

Until then, will not get stressed out about it. 😳😎

This thread is good:

David Allen Green @davidallengreen

Five Brute Facts About Brexit

Which exist, whether like them or not.

One: the UK voted Leave in a dedicated referendum, after a long campaign and with a heavy turnout. In the subsequent general election most MPs elected on manifestos that Brexit would be implemented.

Two: the UK will leave the EU by automatic operation of law on 29 March 2019, unless something exceptional and not currently in view happens.

Three: the European Communities Act 1972 will be repealed on 29 March 2019 by automatic operation of law, again unless something exceptional and not currently in view happens.

Four: the UK has not made any, or any proper, planning for No Deal and there is not time available to put in place proper no deal arrangements before March 2019.

Five: the draft withdrawal agreement is the EU27's offering, and no attempt of "re-negotiation" will easily budge the EU's position, and certainly not quickly. It is an accordance of two years' worth of guidelines etc.

These Brute Facts can change - including the mandate being somehow extinguished - but none can be changed with ease or speed.

So they set the parameters of what is possible. In the cold light of mid-December, when MPs come to vote, it looks like there is a choice: cancel Brexit, no deal, or this deal. If the mandate still stands, and there is no preparation for No Deal, then only the third is viable.

Whoever is PM, will have to contend with these five points.

Worth thinking about and reflecting on, when considering will she stay or will she go.

I have no sympathy for her.

She chose to put herself up for the job. She could then have said: the result was really close. It was an advisory referendum. Let's take a bit of time to re-group and work out what the best action will be for the country. She chose not to

Instead, she chose to impose red lines (which weren't in the Referendum) and essentially create a circle that was impossible to square.

She chose to invoke A50. She even tried to do that without parliamentary approval and the government fought Gina Miller all the way to the Supreme Court.

She surrounded herself with Brexiters. Sidelined anyone (like Ivan Rodgers) who told her truths she didn't want to here.

She chose have a GE to "reinforce" her mandate (despite the safeguards of the FTPA) and then ended up beholden to the DUP.

She brought this on herself - and the country

...and that's even before you factor in the illegal actions of the various Leave campaigns, the activities of Cambridge Analytica, the lies admitted by Farage the day after the Referendum and the suspect £8 million from Aaron Banks

I'm in the strange position of rooting for Theresa May. I always thought she was a bit rubbish, but BJ and Gove are very, very rubbish and I suspect the ghastly Rees-Mogg would be at least as bad as either, although as he hasn't done anything useful in government it's hard to be sure. She's done two really stupid things since taking the top spot: allowing herself to be teased into an entirely unwanted, unnecessary and self-destructive general election (thought it was her own idea - hah!), and leaving the twit Davis unsupervised for a large chunk of the crucial two years while he failed to progress Brexit one half inch. However, she has got a vague idea of diplomacy and a fairly realistic grasp of most of the issues. The others are on a career drive and don't care who they drive right over.

As for Corbyn: not leadership material. It's not a left or right thing, it's a competence thing. He just has not Got It.

Yeah, ok, we're fucked.

They didn’t mention it avegemitesandwich because it didn’t fit with their agenda. I think Boris, Gove, JRM and Cameron should be shut in a room until they fix the mess they caused and then kicked to the kerb.

Not a resignation.

Its the PM's emblem; therefore not a personal statement - which a resignation would be.

What will happen?

A new leader of the conservative party will be chosen who will become Prime Minister. Then everyone will moan that it's not who they voted for because many people are too stupid to realise that they voted for a party, not a person.

Those saying up there ^^ that Jeremy Corbyn might 'get in' need to know that he is not in the same party as Theresa May.

Why is she having a press conference if not a GE, Resignation etc... anything else could wait until the commons tomo?

Its not the country she needs to convince right now, its her party.

she has tried to keep everyone happy and has pissed everyone off

The DUP need a touch of reality if they want to be part of the uk then align your abortion laws etc , when in Rome !

Cant wait for Corbyn to get in and fuck it all up !

To waffle on about the 'national interest'

'National interest' is the new slogan.

Get used to it.

Most leavers I know in real life are like 'yeah yeah Northern Ireland yadda yadda, when can we stop the immigrants coming in?
well you obviously hang about with rather stupid people.
Most leavers I know have "immigrants" as a non entity in their decision to vote leave,

well you obviously hang about with rather stupid people.

Yeah they are stupid. Pretty much all of my actual friends are staunchly remain.

JRM would be a disaster. Larry the Cat for Prime Minister.

Just coming on to say that @redtoothbrush but you beat me to it. Not a general election either I think given the hatching means it's government space

They must be doing quite a lot of 'last minute tweaks' to this speech?

the political leavers do most definitely have a plan. They want a total crash out. And all they need to do to get it is to ensure lack of agreement.

A few rich people will benefit.

Madeleine Maxwell gets my vote for PM

If she calls a general election today & then quits tomorrow would the GE go ahead?

Well she's doubling down