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Neighbour shouting in communal corridors about killing someone with a knife (title edited by MNHQ)

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Itsmeaga1n · 15/09/2018 17:59

So last night it all kicked off in the building I live in .. a neighbour on my corridor was screaming about killing someone with a knife, about killing the police, about buying drugs and them stealing her money ... the police were called (not by me) and arrested her. She shouted that she's bipolar and hadnt taken her medication. Also before the police arrived she used racist language beginning with p followed by a word rhyming with hunt.

I'm shaken, scared to go out of my flat at night (I'm a single parent, my dd is 17 and I definitely don't want her out on her own).

Is there anything I can do to have this person removed ? I feel she should be in sheltered accommodation as she's dangerous. I live in a housing association flat but not sheltered so she's not supervised.

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FissionChips · 15/09/2018 21:45

The woman clearly shouldn't be living without care or support and the drug use will be making her condition worse. OP is right, She needs to be in supported accommodation or a hospital

That’s just not true. I have done exactly the same as the op’s neighbour has. I didn’t and don’t need locking up in hospital or supported accommodation.

AutisticHedgehog · 15/09/2018 21:48

And what if this women’s MH conditions are due to her experiences of a violent upbringing or abusive relationship? (We have no idea - just as you have no idea whether there are others with MH problems living within the vicinity)

But out of sight, out of mind would seem to be something you support?

What if YOU have a breakdown because of the mental impact of the appalling behaviour you have had to endure? Would you be happy to be removed from your home just to ensure you don’t hurt anyone around you - you know, just to be in the safe side? So you don’t trigger any other mentally ill person. Because that is the position you are advocating.

feedmecoffee · 15/09/2018 21:50

You have walked around with a knife and shouted angry threats and didn't need any help what so ever? 😊 not saying I haven't been there I stayed in hospital for a month before, dealt with my PTSD as I was having panic attacks and hurting myself but I don't think anyone who threatens to stab people doesn't need any help whatsoever. Especially if drugs are involved. All mental health issues should be taken seriously and treated correctly.

feedmecoffee · 15/09/2018 21:52

Like I say, I did have a breakdown nd spend just over a month in hospital. Best thing I ever did my panic attacks were getting too serious and I was smoking more weed than I could afford. The woman needs help obviously if she is behaving like that. Just like I did and was fortunate enough to get the help I needed to live with my MH and keep it under control.

FissionChips · 15/09/2018 21:54

Yes, I have done exactly that, I also smoke cannabis occasionally.
I did need help, a medication adjustment. Completely different to needing hospital or supported living!

Beginning to wonder if op is my neighbour Hmm

WhatIsThisTomfoolery · 15/09/2018 21:54

fission so you're a druggie with dealers coming round your house at all hours?

feedmecoffee · 15/09/2018 21:55

I still have to live with my conditions every day but they are under control because I spent time getting professional help. I was more of a danger to myself than others but if I went backwards again I would hope I got the help I needed to get the help I needed and not be a risk to myself/others. OP has her and her daughter to think about and somebody who walks around with a knife threatening people shouldn't be living unsupervised in a building full of people. Mental Health or not...

AutisticHedgehog · 15/09/2018 21:56

That’s great. It is very reassuring to hear you accessed the treatment you needed.

We’re you permanently relieve from your home. Because that’s what the OP would have wanted to happen to you.

In this case, the neighbour was removed by police then returned to her house. She would have been sectioned had she been a threat. Surely it is therefore unfair to still expect her to be removed from her home?

Leavesorange · 15/09/2018 21:57

How are things ok?

Leavesorange · 15/09/2018 21:57

Op*

AutisticHedgehog · 15/09/2018 21:57

And she was not walking around threatening people with a knife. The OP only heard her saying things like that. There is a huge difference (notwithstanding the fact it would of course be troubling to hear such words)

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 15/09/2018 21:58

yes she should have been assessed if she was considered a threat

The police may have decided that she no longer was that does not mean others don’t feel under threat

And because more serious issues are needed to be taken care of the bar is set low. I’ve sat with people for hours and hours waiting for them to be assessed and once they have they have been deemed to be ok and for their support teams to manage them

The police are often not interested in low level drug dealing and people with mh issues well not until something goes seriously wrong because the resources are simply not there

feedmecoffee · 15/09/2018 21:58

Yes, I lost my home as I couldn't afford the rent whilst in hospital, I had to live with my parents then at a hostel then at friends places until me and DP found somewhere.

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feedmecoffee · 15/09/2018 22:01

Also in the past I have said I felt suicidal to professionals and was clearly hysterical and in need of serious help and they were happy to send me home with my "not a risk" certificate.... think her neighbours would beg to differ.... like mine probably would've with my constant hysterical crying and screaming to my partner that I can't cope and don't want to be here..

FissionChips · 15/09/2018 22:03

fission so you're a druggie with dealers coming round your house at all hours?

I smoke cannabis and do have people visit my house. Op downstairs know if the neighbour is reviving dealers (why would dealers turn up at all hours frequently?).

FissionChips · 15/09/2018 22:04

Doesn’t * not downstairs

feedmecoffee · 15/09/2018 22:04

Glad I lost that home whilst in hospital it meant after a few hurdles and nights on sofas we could have a fresh start in our new home with nobody to judge us on my past. My life is better in every way since I got help I needed and came off weed. I Genuinely hope this woman gets the help she needs because mental health is a bitch but I still agree with OP

FissionChips · 15/09/2018 22:07

Were you actually a risk to others feedmecoffee? Crying and screaming does not equal risk.

AutisticHedgehog · 15/09/2018 22:09

feedmecoffee - that is awful. and it makes me angry that you have had to go through that. Illness - physical or mental - should not mean someone loses their home. But from what you’ve written I understand that you think that it is appropriate treatment of an unwell person?

stressedtiredbuthaopy - you smell.

(I have tried to keep the insults at an intellectual level you might understand)

Itsmeaga1n · 15/09/2018 22:10

I know because they talk openly and loudly in the corridor about it.

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Bluecloudyskies · 15/09/2018 22:12

Actually I totally empathise with OP

My mother has MH and is a fucking nightmare. She is extremely aggressive and volatile we are NC

My DGM neighbour has MH and alcoholic issue and us a fucking nightmare. It massively impacts my nans life.

I’ve lived this shit and I’d be looking to try and move or get this woman evicted because they are dangerous and disruptive.

The police and MH services are over run with with people like this and they become low priority leaving neighbours and family in the shit.

FissionChips · 15/09/2018 22:13

So she’s a main dealer with several smaller dealers coming to buy in order to deal themselves or she has a deale that isn’t willing to make drop offs frequently at great risk to themselves? Hmm

FissionChips · 15/09/2018 22:14

Is*

If that’s the case I wouldn’t worry too much, they’ll soon be caught.
Sounds rather unbelievable though.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 15/09/2018 22:17

Fission police are not interested in low level dealing they haven’t got the resources to

Let’s not pretend that vulnerable people with mh issues are not used by dealers who will in turn supply them with drugs that will more likely that not impact their mental health