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I am wondering why this isn't a hate crime actually.

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GoldenVaginaBoat · 04/09/2018 06:52

Name changed due to doxxing fears. Naice ham, mouldies, That unfortunate man from hull.

Sex is the body you are born with.

If you are a woman you have XX chromosomes and a vagina. If you are male you have XY and a penis.

Gender is traditionally the baggage that comes with your sex. So for example the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACP) guidelines that state womanhood in a British cultural context often means adhering to social norms of femininity, such as being nurturing, caring, social, emotional, vulnerable, and concerned with appearance

But that “being a man in a British cultural context often means adhering to social norms of masculinity, such as being competitive, ambitious, and caring about their work”

That is gender.

That had been mostly debunked as nonsense in the past hundred years after women got the vote simply by women absolutely refusing to follow the rules. Our uteruses didn't fall out once we started driving and our brains didn't explode the first time we voted.

Sex is not "assigned at birth" your sex is observed, much like having hair or delivering a baldy. It's just a basic fact. This child has a vagina and is therefore a girl.

What transactivists and various political parties want to do is change the world girl to mean someone who identifies as a girl, not someone who was born with a vagina. If we change the terminology without first asking women- we are assuming their gender and we are assuming crassly they have a gender in the first place.

I do not.

I could do the thing of so many of my millennial peers and call myself "non binary" or "gender fluid" because I feel the trappings of gender don't fit with the vagina I was born with. But actually, I think that's true of MOST people.

So if most people are trans than how can gender be real?

And why have we come to a situation where we allow people to assume that we have gender and that for most of us our gender is "cis"?

Why are we allowing people to redefine sex and to no longer talk about what actually happens to biological females in our world?

Whether you are Germaine Greer or Donald Bloody Trump the one thing we all know is that female infanticide is rife around the world.

Millions of women are sexually assaulted (in this country alone).

Women are murdered almost always by men.

Sexual abuse is almost always by men against women.

If "women" were a race this would be called genocide with no exaggeration. When people deny genocide happens against certain groups we rightfully see through their agenda. Why are women refusing to see through this agenda?

Misgendering women as cis and assuming that they do not suffer because of their female sex but instead because of a made up gender and then taking away the right to sex based privacy should be a hate crime.

Women in prisons need to be safe. not because they have a "caring nurturing vain" feminine self. But because they have a vagina, that can be raped and a body that can be impregnated.

If we separate only by sex, we don't misgender anyone. We are merely saying this person cannot get pregnant if we separate them from this other person with a penis.

This person who is on average more likely to be physically smaller and at risk of sexual assault from this other person who is physically larger and has a penis and is from the group that commits 98% of sexual assaults is safer with other females.

Anything else is assuming the gender of the majority. And if the majority then start identifying as "non binary" there is no longer a way to separate women and men from each other in locker rooms and public showers, or bathrooms, or prisons. Everything will effectively be unisex.

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PristineCondition · 04/09/2018 06:54

Its not even 7am...

Buzzlightyearsbumchin · 04/09/2018 06:58

Could you not add your points to one of the 857 million threads that already say exactly the same things?

Movablefeast · 04/09/2018 07:05

OP although I agree with everything you are saying you don’t address the title of your thread, what is the “this” that should be a hate crime? You are not specific.

GoldenVaginaBoat · 04/09/2018 07:13

OP although I agree with everything you are saying you don’t address the title of your thread, what is the “this” that should be a hate crime? You are not specific.

Oh sorry, It's early. "this" is the forcible misgendering of women and denial of female specific experience and sex based oppression. I don't believe in thought policing so if you want to have a philosophical arguments on buzzfreed till the cows come home go fo rit but when you actually try to change laws to take away sex based safe spaced you are committing a hate crime imo.

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GoldenVaginaBoat · 04/09/2018 07:15

Could you not add your points to one of the 857 million threads that already say exactly the same things?

Good luck when the Christmas threads start and the disabled bayVpram, mother and child parking, magic chicken threads

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RatRolyPoly · 04/09/2018 07:17

Oh for heaven's sake, there was so much incorrect and twisted bullshit in the first 5 paragraphs of you OP that I couldn't be bothered to read the other 8,543,760 of them. Did you at some point mention something that should be a hate crime?

GoldenVaginaBoat · 04/09/2018 07:33

Actually according to wordcounter.net just now it's just over a two-minute read and has 24 paragraphs. I split it that way due to people probably you refusing to read anything over 2 sentences long that hasn't been split in to a million paragraphs. If you had managed to read all two mimuntes of it you would see that I do in fact say the below. It's a bit much to make people do the two minutes of reading for you isn't it?

If "women" were a race this would be called genocide with no exaggeration. When people deny genocide happens against certain groups we rightfully see through their agenda. Why are women refusing to see through this agenda? Misgendering women as cis and assuming that they do not suffer because of their female sex but instead because of a made up gender and then taking away the right to sex based privacy should be a hate crime.

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GoldenVaginaBoat · 04/09/2018 07:35

I'm curious what misinformation can be found in the first 5 paragraphs? 'Women have vaginas' bit controversial for you?

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busyboysmum · 04/09/2018 07:39

Great points op.

It's all complete nonsense.

I'm convinced those pushing for self id are those with no gender disphoria who aren't able to fool doctors in order to gain access to female spaces for nefarious purposes.

comedycentral · 04/09/2018 07:58

I am so sick of this on Mumsnet. Same conversation, different day. 😴😴😴

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