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WWYD if you knew some dodgy stuff about a scout leader?

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 16:42

The leader in question has had several affairs (hus wife knows) but also uses adultworks to meet prostitutes and has a fairly high 'feedback rating'. I've alsom found him use the same username on a porn forum which has a teen babes section. He leads scouts and explorers so from age 10 up to about 17.

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ImperialBlether · 28/08/2015 16:44

His affairs are his and his wife's business. However if is going on a forum like that and you know for definite it's him (hard to know how you would know) then I think you have a duty to report what you know to someone higher up.

How do you know all this?

BertrandRussell · 28/08/2015 16:52

How do you know?

The person to tell is the District Comissioner.

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 16:54

I know because I found him out and he admitted it to me. He used the same user name for work things as well as other stuff which made me investigate. I have a text from him saying that it was him and he was sorry.

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 16:55

He is a friend, but the scout/porn/prostitute thing doesn't sit right with me

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WorraLiberty · 28/08/2015 16:56

Why would he 'admit' his personal business to you and then apologise for it?

ALongTimeComing · 28/08/2015 16:56

Speak to Gilwell, Scouts HQ and see what they say.

I'm curious how you know he's on a porn forum though?

Most of what you have said isn't any of Scouts business though. Adults always have their own personal lives!

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 16:57

Because he is my friend. He tried to deny it, but then admitted it when I pressed him. How I know teally isnt the issue though.

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 16:57

*really

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WorraLiberty · 28/08/2015 17:01

Unless he's got a verified photo of himself on the forum (and even then someone could have 'stolen' it), I can't see why the scouts Commissioner would be worried.

As a PP said, they're allowed personal lives. I dont' think being his 'friend' gives you any right to 'press him' about it.

BertrandRussell · 28/08/2015 17:01

If you google Scouts in your area, you'll find the safeguarding person- ring them.

ImperialBlether · 28/08/2015 17:04

I assume the OP is on the same forum.

HermioneWeasley · 28/08/2015 17:04

Unless the porn is images of child sex abuse, I'm not sure what you're reporting? I presume thr majority of men have viewed legal pronography, it doesn't make them a danger to children.

If the porn is illegal, you should be telling the police.

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 17:04

Ok. Fair enough. I was only asking. It is him, and there is a photo, and he has admitted to using adultworks (where you have to also verify your identity).
It just shocked me that a person who frequently uses prostitutes and shares porn online has such easy access to teen girls. It's something I never knew about him and it has upset me. Not sure why you feel the need to put 'friend' like that. He is a friend who I have just discovered has another side to him.

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 17:05

And no, the OP is not on the same forum Hmm

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BertrandRussell · 28/08/2015 17:06

Yes, it would shock me too. And yes, I would report him.

ImperialBlether · 28/08/2015 17:07

Sorry, my mistake.

WorraLiberty · 28/08/2015 17:10

Presumably the teen 'girls' are adults aged 18+

If they're not, you should report to the Police.

Scoobydoo8 · 28/08/2015 17:16

He is a blanking idiot imv.

I don't know any scout masters but any teachers or police people I know are incredibly cautious online, and in real life come to that, they value their careers.

Someone senior and experienced should probably speak to him about it so report it.

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DrMorse · 28/08/2015 17:25

I know its not illegal as such what he is doing, but the high amount of feedback on adultworks was disturbing.
I have urged him to change his user name if nothing else as he uses the same one for scout and work matters so could be found by anyone.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 28/08/2015 17:32

He's an idiot for using same names. However provided what he is doing is legal and not in scout/work time then really it is between him and his wife.

I would think badly of him though

Jenijena · 28/08/2015 17:32

Ring Gilwell, Scout HQ. They will advise - scouts.org.uk/contact-us/ and will also alert the local management team if they consider it a safeguarding risk.

Although, as has been said, if its with over 18s, it technically isn't illegal (morally dubious though). I would expect at the very least a warning about bringing scouting into disrepute.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 28/08/2015 17:39

Contact HQ. It's not that it means he is a risk to his troop but there's also a real chance of reputational damage for the organisation if someone else finds out about it and goes to the newspapers or such like.
HQ are best placed to make a decision on how to approach it and what action to take next.

UrbaneFox · 28/08/2015 17:43

just specifying ''teen" porn (even if they're 18+ ) wouldn't sit right with me either OP. He's with teens. And he went looking for teen porn oh goodness, I would have to say something to somebody.

WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 28/08/2015 18:01

The OP doesn't say he went looking for teen porn, she says there's a section on the porn forum. He may never have gone anywhere near that part of the forum. He may have other perfectly legal interests.

Mumsnet have plenty of subsections ive never looked at.

BertrandRussell · 28/08/2015 18:44

I don't think there's a single porn website that doesn't have a teen porn section.

But if you found this stuff about him, presumably others could. And I certainly expect more from Scout leaders. If nothing else, he's potentially bringing the movement into disrepute. And the last thing Scouting needs is the merest hint of unsavoury behaviour in its leaders.