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A new term at the Faculty of Armitage Studies, University of Milton North

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LaVieEnTechnicolor · 30/01/2011 21:13

Do come in. It's never too late to enrol. We have an extensive programme of rigorous academic study and a never-ending supply of Chateau Gizzy and ratafia biscuits.

::Sets out enticing buffet on the common room sideboard::

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Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 00:17

A 21st century maypole dance, then...

LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 00:27

That young lady's problem is that she has never met a decent specimen of English maculinity. To wit:

Now, in Mr. Thornton's face the straight brows fell low over the clear, deep-set earnest eyes, which, without being unpleasantly sharp, seemed intent enough to penetrate into the very heart and core of what he was looking at. The lines in the face were few but firm, as if they were carved in marble, and lay principally about the lips, which were slightly compressed over a set of teeth so faultless and beautiful as to give the effect of sudden sunlight when the rare bright smile, coming in an instant and shining out of the eyes, changed the whole look from the severe and resolved expression of a man ready to do and dare everything, to the keen honest enjoyment of the moment, which is seldom shown so fearlessly and instantaneously except by children.

And so to bed.

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TheSmallPrint · 01/02/2011 08:18

Morning all I couldn't get back on here last night, summat wrong with the server? Anyway you kept yourselves very busy and I see I have plenty to research today!

Pheonix thanks for the reminder about Elsa tonight, gives me something to look forward to later.

Theresa you will be pleased to know Harry is safe and sound but now there are hints he may be leaving Hmm.

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LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 12:07

Allo, allo, allo.

Would anyone care for lunch? We have a smorgasbord of hotpot, apples from the Locksley orchard and ratafia biscuits.

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Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 12:10

Hello all -- Anyone want a smoked salmon and cream cheese bagel for their lunch? I have some very nice large pink grapes for after.

Small, thanks for letting me know Harry is okay!. What a relief! Leaving is fine, I just wish they wouldn't slaughter them.

I expect no one will be on here at seven GMT tonight, then. Perhaps you'll be kind and tell me all about it afterwards. RA and DA, two of my most favourite men ever, in one show. And I don't get to see it. Sad

Faint hope: do they do DVDs of this show?

LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 12:13

What a dilemma. Can I desert the Armitigian buffet in favour of a (frankly more appetising) bagel?

::Wrestles with indecision::

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Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 12:26

Ah, bless, Johnny is so sweet when he does that. Does he do the chin-rubbing thing too? I am sure he does but can't remember.

Bagels are all 'choose your own filling' , btw, I should have said. Not everyone likes raw fish after all.

LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 12:52

'Sfunny that. I hate sushi and claim to dislike all raw fish but love smoked salmon.

Dear Johnnie is sweet in nearly every situation. ::expunges memory of BBC punch-up scene:: I'm sure he does do the chin rub because that, and the eyebrow rise, are something of a trope and all his characters seem to do these things. I haven't actually watched any N&S for weeks so last night watched the Look Back scene and the final scene and most delicious they were too.

A propos yesterday's The Impressionists. As you say, the scenery and lighting are delightful - if it wasn't filmed wholly in France, it was filmed somewhere with the right quality of light - and there is a proper plot (unlike, one gathers, some of his other work, mentioning no names The Golden Hour), insofar as a biography has a plot. The one irritant was the rather clunky script, with the old Monet's voiceover providing a lot of art history facts which seemed to have been bunged in for the benefit of anyone doing A level Art. But if it's still cheap on The Other River I think it's worth a cosy afternoon's viewing.

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MrsLucasNorth · 01/02/2011 12:53

Theresa - can you not get it through the BBC website on iplayer?

According to today's listings the date of tonight's show is 2010-2011, so presumably it's new? There are other natural world episodes available on Amazon for about £4 per episode, so you may get lucky in a few months time.

MrsLucasNorth · 01/02/2011 12:54

Techno - I spent last night revisiting a few scenes from Strikeback - probably not quite as tasteful as your viewing preferences Grin!

LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 12:58

As you know, MrsLN, there is one scene from SB involving throat kissing and shirt removal which I find quite interesting from a dramaturgical perspective and have therefore watched very attentively during the BWWMD. More than once. Ahem.

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Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 13:09

MrsLN, thanks for the thought re Elsa but the iPlayer facility isn't available overseas. No doubt because they want to flog the programs on later or show them on their international channels. Which is a bit odd as they don't stop Amazon sending DVDs out here.(They have already begun reminding me that Spooks 9 can be mine for a consideration... Which reminds me. Last night they began railing some series or other, no idea of the number but Ros has long hair and Adam is in it. It starts on Feb 14th.)
I shall look out for the Natural World DVDs on Amazon at a later date, then.

Techno, I forgot to thank you for the lovely description of Mr Thornton from dear Mrs G with which you regaled us last night. It is as if she wrote it with a certain someone in mind. I wonder what she would have thought about the film? Obviously the s**t-kicking scene would have aroused her ire as she seems to have been somewhat enamoured of her creation.

Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 13:09

trailing not railing

Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 13:12

Ladies, have you wondered how many times they had to repeat that SB scene to get the co-ordination right?

Oh bother! thinks lady actress. This is really such a bore..

LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 13:31

You are welcome, Theresa. It seems to me we had gone too long without a quote from the Lady Oracle herself. I am sure she would have approved of her book being transposed onto TV - I'm assuming that Mr Thornton's embrace of all things modern is her own attitude - but suspect she may blanch at some of the liberties taken (the punch-up, the bizarre scene at the Great Exhibition, the rather sappy replacement of the final declaration of love).

As for the lady actresses. Daniela Denby-Thingy's comments in the N&S extras are amusing - she mentions that they had to reshoot the final scene and so she and The Man had to spend another afternoon kissing. She doesn't exactly look downcast at the memory.

So here, in reverence to Mrs Gaskell, is that moment as it should be recorded:

No one ever knew why Mr. Lennox did not keep to his appointment on the following day. Mr. Thornton came true to his time; and, after keeping him waiting for nearly an hour, Margaret came in looking very white and anxious.

She began hurriedly:

'I am so sorry Mr. Lennox is not here,he could have done it so much better than I can. He is my adviser in this'--

'I am sorry that I came, if it troubles you. Shall I go to Mr. Lennox's chambers and try and find him?'

'No, thank you. I wanted to tell you, how grieved I was to find that I am to lose you as a tenant. But, Mr. Lennox says, things are sure to brighten'----

'Mr. Lennox knows little about it,' said Mr. Thornton quietly. 'Happy and fortunate in all a man cares for, he does not understand what it is to find oneself no longer youngyet thrown back to the starting-point which requires the hopeful energy of youthto feel one half of life gone, and nothing done?nothing remaining of wasted opportunity, but the bitter recollection that it has been. Miss Hale, I would rather not hear Mr. Lennox's opinion of my affairs. Those who are happy and successful themselves are too apt to make light of the misfortunes of others.'

'You are unjust,' said Margaret, gently. 'Mr. Lennox has only spoken of the great probability which he believes there to be of your redeemingyour more than redeeming what you have lostdon't speak till I have ended--pray don't!' And collecting herself once more, she went on rapidly turning over some law papers, and statements of accounts in a trembling hurried manner.

'Oh! here it is! And he drew me out a proposal I wish he was here to explain itshowing that if you would take some money of mine, eighteen thousand and fifty-seven pounds, lying just at this moment unused in the bank, and bringing me in only two and a half per cent. you could pay me much better interest, and might go on working Marlborough Mills.' Her voice had cleared itself and become more steady. Mr. Thornton did not speak, and she went on looking for some paper on which were written down the proposals for security; for she was most anxious to have it all looked upon in the light of a mere business arrangement, in which the principal advantage would be on her side. While she sought for this paper, her very heart-pulse was arrested by the tone in which Mr. Thornton spoke. His voice was hoarse, and trembling with tender passion, as he said: --

'Margaret!'

For an instant she looked up; and then sought to veil her luminous eyes by dropping her forehead on her hands. Again, stepping nearer, he besought her with another tremulous eager call upon her name.

'Margaret!'

Still lower went the head; more closely hidden was the face, almost resting on the table before her. He came close to her. He knelt by her side, to bring his face to a level with her ear; and whispered-panted out the words:--

'Take care.If you do not speakI shall claim you as my own in some strange presumptuous way.Send me away at once, if I must go; Margaret! --'

At that third call she turned her face, still covered with her small white hands, towards him, and laid it on his shoulder, hiding it even there; and it was too delicious to feel her soft cheek against his, for him to wish to see either deep blushes or loving eyes. He clasped her close. But they both kept silence. At length she murmured in a broken voice:

'Oh, Mr. Thornton, I am not good enough!'

'Not good enough! Don't mock my own deep feeling of unworthiness.'

After a minute or two, he gently disengaged her hands from her face, and laid her arms as they had once before been placed to protect him from the rioters.

'Do you remember, love?' he murmured. 'And how I requited you with my insolence the next day?'

'I remember how wrongly I spoke to you,--that is all.'

'Look here! Lift up your head. I have something to show you!' She slowly faced him, glowing with beautiful shame.

'Do you know these roses?' he said, drawing out his pocket-book, in which were treasured up some dead flowers.

'No!' she replied, with innocent curiosity. 'Did I give them to you?'

'No! Vanity; you did not. You may have worn sister roses very probably.'

She looked at them, wondering for a minute, then she smiled a little as she said?
'They are from Helstone, are they not? I know the deep indentations round the leaves. Oh! have you been there? When were you there?'

'I wanted to see the place where Margaret grew to what she is, even at the worst time of all, when I had no hope of ever calling her mine. I went there on my return from Havre.'

'You must give them to me,' she said, trying to take them out of his hand with gentle violence.

'Very well. Only you must pay me for them!'

'How shall I ever tell Aunt Shaw?' she whispered, after some time of delicious silence.

'Let me speak to her.'

'Oh, no! I owe to her,--but what will she say?

'I can guess. Her first exclamation will be, "That man!"'

'Hush!' said Margaret, 'or I shall try and show you your mother's indignant tones as she says, "That woman!"'

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Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 13:50

Oh, I do so wish he had done the audio book.
I jonly have to crank up my imagination a wee bit though, to hear him say the words.
That man

It's all in the vibrations, n'est-ce pas?

How is Claude, btw? Waiting for your next ironing session, I suppose

Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 13:56

Well, you'll never guess who my buxom post person has just this minute escorted to my door. A rather lost and shy-looking young gentleman.

Come into my parlour, said the spider to the fly.

No seriously. he will be totally safe with me. Cross my heart and hope to die Wink @ MrsLN

LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 14:03

Mais non. J'ai eu beaucoup de repassage à faire et donc j'ai vu le beau Claud hier (et même l?écureuil). Tous les trois episodes. On s?amuse beaucoup avec Claude! Maintenant, je veux aller à Paris, pour rendre visite au Musee Marmottan. Zut alors!

::Enjoys the frisson of excitement at the thought of Mr Thornton claiming her Margaret in a strange, presumptuous way. Ooh la la!::

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LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 14:05

Wow! But remember, Theresa, that

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Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 14:33

Strange and presumptuous sounds good to me, too. Naughty Mrs G for thinking of it. Although in those days it might have referred to something totally innocuous, like drinking out of her favourite mug.

I yearn to visit la belle France again despite what they did to us in 1066. And other times, passim. Unfortunately Mr T is a stay-at-home stick-in-the-mud these days. So I doubt I shall ever again walk along the Bois de Boulogne with an independent air.

As I said, John/Ralph is perfectly safe with me. Believe it or not, Limpopoland makes for a sheltered life, and I am painfully shy myself. It's only in my fantasies that the shameless strumpet in me comes out.

PassTheTwiglets · 01/02/2011 14:47

Theresa, re. the Elsa thingy, do you or MrT not have access to... ahem... other sources? I understand that some people are able to download such things, albeit not entirely legally.

PassTheTwiglets · 01/02/2011 14:47

And how lovely to have Ralph John in your house! You must let as know what you think as soon as you've had a chance!

LaVieEnTechnicolor · 01/02/2011 14:50

I have always assumed that the strange presumption was a kiss - after all, Mrs G was a clergyman's wife - which, of course, he late does claim in those moments of delicious silence. But I too have led a sheltered life.

I am now working on TechnoMan to convince him that we are due another trip to gay Paree, to be timed to catch the Pre Raphs at the Musee d'Orsay [have given up on c&p accents for now] and the Raoul Dufy at the Musee Marmottan.

What do you do for holidays in Limpopoland? Or does MrTheresa not countenance any form of holiday? I imagine you taking a cruise down the Limpopo or perhaps going skiing in the heretofore unknown Limpopo Alps, all the while skimming through a Victorian novel or two.

::salsas around the Academy, a rose between her teeth::

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Theresaholeinyourmind · 01/02/2011 15:04

Twigs re Elsa I don't know how to do anything like that and mr T is even more clueless than me so I would have to consult my personal IT guru --which would lead to awkward questions!! So I shall have to wait I guess. Poor Ralph John is in a very long queue I have to say. I still have to wade through whole oceans of Guy.

Though I am already wondering who to summon next, dear Claude or the soldier boy.

Obviously in Limpopland we spend our vacances on safari. Perhaps next time we will check out the lions.

That was an intriguing vid. I am still somewhat obsessed by the idea of Guy as ruined angel. That could be a starting point for a fantasy novel, couldn't it? Though you would have to pretend it was someone else for the sake of the copyright.

itsalarf · 01/02/2011 15:32

Don't believe I have seen the saucy Barry White one before! Blush Excellent news re Elsa - DH huge nature fan, I will cunningly suggest he gets to "watch whatever you like dear" and get huge brownie points. Is ayone else finding themselves becoming more and more fond of Guy in his series 3 incarnation - long raggedy hair, looking a bit smelly.