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I'm just an average gypsy AMA

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GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:36

I've noticed a lot of hatred towards gypsies on here so I thought I'd answer any questions anyone may have that could help you to understand my culture more. You might still disagree with many aspects, but at least you'll be coming from facts and not stereotypes.

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InsolentNoise · 24/04/2024 19:03

NashvilleQueen · 24/04/2024 10:14

You are advocating chaperones @InsolentNoise. What else? Chastity belts?

😂
ODFOD

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 24/04/2024 19:04

Would you recommend it as a way of life. What would you say are the positives and of course the negatives.

mfbx5sf3 · 24/04/2024 19:10

How would you successfully provide a secondary school level of home education if you have had extremely limited education yourself?

Specialguardianshiporderchild · 24/04/2024 19:13

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 24/04/2024 18:31

What is your line of work, out of interest? That might (or might not) go some way to explain why your experience of gypsies and travellers has been good, while for others it's been bad. I suppose it depends on the nature of your contact with them.

Unfortunately, I can't give specifics.

However, I can say that ALL the people I work with are vulnerable.

The gypsy and travelling communities have always stood out to me because of their genuineness.

They have always been open and honest about their circumstances. They have always been accepting of the way we work.

PoppyJM · 24/04/2024 19:14

Nanny0gg · 24/04/2024 18:46

@MillshakePickle While, I may not agree with some of the cultural norms. Who am I to say anything? Each and every culture has their quirks and what is and not acceptable. Just because, I don't agree fully or understand the history that has brought it about doesn't make it wrong. It just makes it different to what we're use to.
If we are to stop hate, racism and prejudice we need to accept all cultures for who they are. Just because my belief system doesn't align with yours doesn't make it wrong or right. It just is.

Disagree. Totally

If it is the 'cultural norm' to practice FGM then it needs calling out and preventing

If it is the 'cultural norm' to prevent access to healthcare, contraception and abortion then it needs calling out

If it the 'cultural norm' to prevent a section of society from accessing education and opportunities then it needs calling out

ISchool leaving age - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I don't understand why gypsy children would not be subject to the rules that everyone else is subject to regarding schooling.

School leaving age

The age you can leave school in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school

TheGander · 24/04/2024 19:14

BrieHugger · 24/04/2024 18:57

Which ones are most prevalent and which are not at all typical?

Smith, Jones, Taylor and Brown are still, I think, the most common English names. Add Williams, Davies and Evans for Wales, Campbell and Stewart for Scotland, Kelly and Murphy for NI.

Since there are a lot of crossovers, are there surnames that are so gypsy you just know instantly? I’m into genealogy so I find this aspect of it fascinating!

In Kent, Lee is a very common gypsy surname. Also Scamp, but that one is less common. I agree there’s probably lots of decent gypsy people out there who no one ( from outside the community) would know are gypsies. In Canterbury where I grew up you used to see recognisably gypsy people ( way before the influx of Eastern European gypsies) . The boot fair, fruit picking were common trades. But the opportunities there have shrunk with the boot fair being closed and Eastern Europeans doing a lot of the agricultural work now. I think a lot of the men like outdoor type work that doesn’t require a whole lot of paperwork. I have a strong feeling several of the guys at the council recycling centre are gypsies.

Northwood456 · 24/04/2024 19:15

Is there much spirituality left? I’m thinking Peaky Blinders-esque ‘talk to the gypsies’ to find out a prophecy. Probably romanticising a lot there

mfbx5sf3 · 24/04/2024 19:15

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 13:09

Encourage/harass. I'd say these days it's more of a 50/50 split for people who do and don't vaccinate, where in my parents generation it was next to none.

Yes why listen to those pesky doctors with their wealth of medical knowledge when you’ve got your 6/7 years of primary school education to base your opinions of vaccination on…..

TheLadyofShalotts · 24/04/2024 19:15

mfbx5sf3 · 24/04/2024 19:10

How would you successfully provide a secondary school level of home education if you have had extremely limited education yourself?

I imagine like most home ed families do- with tutoring/ online school/ workbooks etc. I don’t know a single home ed family where the parents are (or think they are) equipped to provide the whole of a high school education without outside support from somewhere.

Even if you are a high school science teacher, and your husband s high school history and RE teacher, that doesn’t mean you can teach A-Level business studies without help!

EmpressaurusOfCats · 24/04/2024 19:16

mfbx5sf3 · 24/04/2024 19:10

How would you successfully provide a secondary school level of home education if you have had extremely limited education yourself?

The OP’s been asked that repeatedly, I don’t think she’s going to answer.

Anonymous2025 · 24/04/2024 19:17

nineseasaway · 24/04/2024 15:34

I was taught by an older woman at uni, who had worked all her life close with gypsies, that is NOT racist to say certain things to or about them. Because they have to face modern life to and be challenged. So we should not be afraid to challenge certain aspects at all. It’s not ok to starve a child because she is the youngest and the eldest son should have everything before the rest. For example.

I completely agree . Certain things are standard, a child’s welfare should come before any religion , ethnicity or costume as you so well mention . Other things are not damaging , stealing , keeping sanitation to a standard etc means people can live in society . I do not feel gypsies have an unfair stereotype, they have somewhat very real one , even if some people don’t like to hear it . Obviously as the OP hasn’t replied to any of the obvious questions when it comes to these subjects , it’s fair to say she knows they are true

TheLadyofShalotts · 24/04/2024 19:18

PoppyJM · 24/04/2024 19:14

ISchool leaving age - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I don't understand why gypsy children would not be subject to the rules that everyone else is subject to regarding schooling.

They are- they have to be ‘home educating’- but the checks on home education are really lax for everyone.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 24/04/2024 19:19

Can you tell Romany gypsies form their looks? For example, I think Romany gypsies are rumoured to have come from Northern India, so will have dark features. They wouldn't, I d have thought, have diluted that much due to the lack of mixing with non gypsies.

Anonymous2025 · 24/04/2024 19:19

PoppyJM · 24/04/2024 19:14

ISchool leaving age - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I don't understand why gypsy children would not be subject to the rules that everyone else is subject to regarding schooling.

Because social workers are scared of them .

godmum56 · 24/04/2024 19:20

PoppyJM · 24/04/2024 19:14

ISchool leaving age - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I don't understand why gypsy children would not be subject to the rules that everyone else is subject to regarding schooling.

because anybody can withdraw any child from school at any age and say that they will homeschool their child. https://www.gov.uk/home-education

Educating your child at home

Educating your child at home ('home schooling'): when to get permission, telling the school, curriculum, SEN.

https://www.gov.uk/home-education

Pingtotheeastwoodly · 24/04/2024 19:22

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 18:33

I have a question, do us gorgers do anything that you find really bizarre that you would like to ask about?
Hmm, I would like to know why so many people go to university. Is it mostly for the enjoyment of the social side of it? I've read that the amount of people who get a job in their field is really low so it seems strange to take on that debt.

You only have to look at the world to realise how valuable education is. There are children and especially female children who are denied a good education. This is a dreadful thing to deny a child, yet you are happily denying your children a proper education. Education is the key to a better life. Being well educated is worth more than money.

When you say that people don’t necessarily get a job in their field, you are right but that totally misses the point of a higher education. A university education teaches you to think, it teaches you to question, it teaches you to analyse. The subject you study is just something to focus on, whilst you learn the aforementioned.

mfbx5sf3 · 24/04/2024 19:22

TheLadyofShalotts · 24/04/2024 19:15

I imagine like most home ed families do- with tutoring/ online school/ workbooks etc. I don’t know a single home ed family where the parents are (or think they are) equipped to provide the whole of a high school education without outside support from somewhere.

Even if you are a high school science teacher, and your husband s high school history and RE teacher, that doesn’t mean you can teach A-Level business studies without help!

I guess I can’t see how someone who has only experienced education up to the level of a 12 year old can begin to even convey a basic level of support for GCSE to A level subject engagement or assessment- even if they aren’t expected to provide specialist knowledge. Surely home education isn’t just pointing children in the direction of a specialist text or online session and expecting them to get on with it?

RainbowColouredRainbows · 24/04/2024 19:22

Thank you for such an interesting thread, OP.

I've seen a few roma gypsy women claiming to be fortune tellers, often they seem to be ancestors of the same woman. How valid are these women or do they tend to be using the name of a famous gypsy woman to push their scams?

FiveFoxes · 24/04/2024 19:23

Do caravans of those who have died and all their belongings still get burnt?
Yes if they are the last one living in it, so after both members of the couple have died

Thank you for answering. That's so sweet!

bingoringo4 · 24/04/2024 19:25

I really don't get the fixation with education. You don't need an education to make loads of money in this day and age. It's so outdated and old fashioned.

CanINapNow · 24/04/2024 19:26

Thanks for doing this post OP. So interesting and eye opening. My question is: Is plastic surgery acceptable? I follow a gypsy family in instagram and all the girls seem to have had boob jobs just before they got married and I was wondering if that was common? Also, I’ve heard that gypsies don’t breastfeed, is that true and if so, why? My baby is formula fed so no judgement, just curious!

TakeOnFlea · 24/04/2024 19:29

"I imagine like most home ed families do- with tutoring/ online school/ workbooks etc. I don’t know a single home ed family where the parents are (or think they are) equipped to provide the whole of a high school education without outside support from somewhere."

Do you actually believe that gypsy children are being home educated?

Mmmmarmalade · 24/04/2024 19:29

OP so interesting thank you!

if I may, you mention you’d facilitate a high school education (home setting) if they wanted to, but it’s it a legal requirement, what do you actually do other wise, say if they didn’t want one (I for sure didn’t at 12) does all formal education stop? So no GCSEs, no nvq, a levels etc

following on re education, for those who do work, is it not almost impossible to find work given no formal qualifications? (Ignore if you do gain qualifications)

you also mentioned different restrictions and expectations of your (gypsy) children. Could you elaborate?

thank you lovely!

IncessantNameChanger · 24/04/2024 19:30

Asked this on a similar thread before but I used to live in big town with a lot of gypsies.
Are you big into dressing your girls very traditionally looking immaculate all the time? If so how do you cope? Keep them pristine all the time? All the woman ate immaculate

Partyatno10 · 24/04/2024 19:30

If a man or woman from your community wanted to marry a gorger, would they be fully accepted into your way of life? Or always be an outsider?

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